Jobs in NZ
 

I know that the NZ Aviation Industry is a very close knit group, and in many cases it is not what you know, but who you know.
I also am not one of 'those guys' that expect to get my CPL and jump into a high-paying twin turbine job,
and i'm more than happy to work for peanuts to fly and make my way up the many rungs of the ladder!

I've been talking to a few places around the country about requirements, etc, but I thought I might aswell ask you people, of which many of you have vast knowledge!

I currently have 240hrs, CPL/MECIR, and was just wondering if anyone would shed light on various jobs in NZ!

Any information would be fantastic!

Cheers millions

We are a close knit group!! Sure..keep your friends close and keep your enemies closer:E:E:E

Draw a horizontal line through Christchurch, and unless you have flown 50hrs down there, forget about a job below that line.
Forget about flying any twin, even if you are qualified you won't be touched for a position until about 800-1000hrs. Don't even bother to keep it current, you are wasting your money.
Invest in an Instructor rating and try the tried and true path, OR look up some of the scenic operators flying single engine cessnas. Build up some VFR time, and then you might be looked at for some IFR single engine work (if they do it), but not much single engine IFR stuff around I know of for low time guys. So you see even the IFR rating is not much good unless you are instructing and the club needs to send you on some odd charter. (again save money on those renewals until you really need the IR)
Best advice I can give if you really want to speed things up and not get dicked around by the NZ fraternity is go to Australia and do some mustering in the outback and go from there, if you don't want the Instructing path.

cheers,
yeah i've done my training at Southern Wings, and have done the odd bit of mountain flying here and there, although i'd still have to do an advanced mountain flying course to qualify for any of the QN operators.

Haha!

Cheers Delta T, indeed.
Paradropping any gooood?

Answer this question: How many F's in the words "Jobs in NZ"? Correct, there are no F'in Jobs in NZ!

Instructing hours are good hours but unless you are one of those "sky gods" and make it to ANZ, you are wasting your time, if you want to be a "future Boeing Cpt" If you want to move things along, career wise, you will need to travel overseas. Bad time at the moment but things will pick up, I.E., boom and bust.

From an outsider looking in I've seen people screw their careers waiting around to get into ANZ.

Two options really in your boat if you ask me; Meat bombing or Instructing. Things at the top have slowed down markedly in recent months and this can be felt all the way to the bottom of G.A. Get out there, find a copy of the Wings Directory and start calling or visiting these places.

Don't bother with any Multi IFR charter companies until you have more TT. The law change's last year require you to have 750 hours TT to act as PIC on a Part 135 Op. Sending a CV in with 300 hours will see it go in one place, the rubbish bin.

WW

I like your atitude on wanting to have a crack at this industri. i dont like you saying i dont mind working for peanuts.
if an operator pays peanuts, he can acpect monkeys to work for him.

why dont you like to build up your time and get paid at least a bit for it.
enough to live on a lil better than just 2 minute noodles every other day?

get your bum overseas. go to oz, wont cost you stuff all to convert your licence. no extra exams or flight tests involved. most companys pay at least more than peanuts. and you get to see something of another country.
there are plenty off places and operators mentioned in other treads, but i think most jobs are "up noth"
the wether is vfr for a big part off the year. and in the wet you still can fly pretty much every day.

just my opinion.
you could always stay here and do a c cat (i dont think you mentioned you had one?) and work for f:mad:k all teaching other guys and girls to fly.
or safe your money for a ticked and chek out the ozzie scene.

ps i do no that there are some operators in NZ that do pay a decent wages. i am not slagging them all off!!

good luck:ok:

I'm a Kiwi whos been in Aussie for a few years and it Rocks compared to NZ, I would never go back, its just like the NZ govt to make it harder than it was already for newer pilots, I only had 350hrs TT when I transfered my license and got a job flying twins over here, mad if you don't go overseas!

Yeah, go to OZ. Work for peanuts then get into VB management and build a good nestegg for yourself by shafting the people that gave you start in the firstplace....

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Mr Buzzy,

Well done........I'm sure what you just said makes a whole of sense to the young lad, he just wants to fly aeroplanes so what the hell are you going on about?

Buzz off

cheers heaps guys!
I've been talking to Andy from KiwiAir, he says exactly the same thing, with the economy the way it is everythings slowing down, and having an effect on the G.A. stuff.

Thanks heaps, I credit all of your advice!

Old Andy huh:rolleyes:..call Sunair, Mountainair, Great Barrier Airlines and Air Discovery. Don't tell them you're happy to work for peanuts. They don't like being reminded that they're parasites. 4-500 hours with a multi ifr rating should be enough. Tell them you are wanting to stay for 2 years, offer to pay for your rating. Be nice, but not too nice. Tell them you'll work in the office and loading bags, washing planes etc until an opportuninty arises..good luck.

Not quite.. Probably more like Oamaru / Omarama is more like it. The operators around Mt Cook don't have those requirements, and frown upon the 50 hours Wakatipu Aeroclub course as a waste of money.

But jobs around Mt Cook are pretty few and far between with most guys serving their entire flying career down here.. There are a handful that will move on in time.

You mentioned about washing planes, the outfit i worked for in the NT, PAID us 20 dollars per plane we washed....:ok:
we also got paid waiting miney during charterwork after a number off hours.

I am not sure if al the companys do that up there tough.
the boss had high expectations, but in my opinion we got wel rewarded for it.

Now you got your CPL, you think off your self as a profesional pilt right? at least thats what you tell the girls in the pub lol.
so expect to get paid for your profesional work.

good luck:ok:

ps, no harm done in sweaping the hanger or washing a plane even if you dont get paid for it tough, just shows that you got the right atitude and want to have a go in this industrie,
just dont have employers expecting you to work for f:mad:k all.

Work OS retire to kiwi with yer own plane seems the best way.

Helps out the gene pool if you leave as well

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half the amount of sperm, but double the amount of teenage parents :confused:

hahaha,
thanks a million guys. I'd be more than happy to do those jobs, cleaning planes etc.

:ok:

I would go overseas, go to Oz or try your luck in Botswana

yeah, having a look at the overseas stuff and it's becoming more and more appealing.

:]

what would be a rough estimate of costs to transition from NZ to OZ?

There is stuff all cost involved. i think a total off 100 dollar will cover al your paper work, but i think it is less than that.
just a paper exercise, you will need an asic card however.
that is more time consumng and frusterating than anything else.
its the ozzie exuse for steeling your presius money in the name off terrorism. cost you 160 ozzie dollars i think. surely some one on here just done his/hers and will tell you exect the price for one off those goofy things you ment to wear all the time, showing that you have no bad intentions and all that crap.
As far as i am aware you dont even need to do a medical until it runs out. than you have to do the initial again.
(wel in my case anyway)
and on top off that your airfares off course.
ring CASA (the ozzie CAA that is) and ask them what's involved, altough there are a few treads on pprune about converting your licence.

cheers and good luck:ok:

perfect, exactly what I was looking for gadude!

oh yes, the asic, haha i've heard about those :8

:ok:

what're accomodation costs like in OZ?

just had a snoop on realestate.com.au, doesn't look all too different from NZ in rent prices