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the wizard of auz 10th Jan 2009 23:55


My pay this year is $136 base next year estimate round $145 remember thats base rate. I havent done the Scare North thing and added the super and allowances to make it sound like you can feed the dog.
Strewth........thats gotta be a biiiig dog. :eek:

Chadzat 11th Jan 2009 00:20

A bit off topic to a T's and C's discussion. But if an applicant had ATPL and well over 500 multi command but not the 2000hrs TT required for a DEC, where are they likely to be 'put' if hired? Are you more likely to go straight onto the Braz FO or is it written into the agreement that all new hires go onto the Metro regardless?

300Series 11th Jan 2009 00:24

Chadzat i know of a few that have gone DE onto the Bras as an FO and skipped the metro. I have heard on the grapevine that Air North are not hiring anyone without an ATPL due to an oversupply of FO's without the night hours to get their ATPL to be eligible for a command upgrade.

300

Chadzat 11th Jan 2009 01:37

Interesting......and I assume that like most regionals at the moment there is a shortage of captains? Is this going to be exacerbated by the new jungle jet this year?

One more question while I'm at it. Do the braz's do much ad-hoc charter work? I know they do scheduled charter services to the Granites etc....

Dog One 11th Jan 2009 03:28

The comment I made reference 5 Captains moving across to the E Jet, meant that there would be vacancies to fill acoss the turbine fleet. These Captains must be happy enough with the T & C's to consider such a move. Now if they have to wait a loooong time of 5 years to move across to the left seat, they would still be ahead of some of their former colleagues who have been waiting up to 12 years with QF. There was very little movement at DJ until the E Jets came, and people waited far longer than 5 years.

Applicats to AN should bear in mind that even with a DE command, years of service will determine your move to the jet, although, with a proposed third aircraft, who knows how they will crew it and the Brasilia's and the Metro's. Their biggest problem will be how effectively they can recruit.

For A_E's benefit, here is a copy of AN's web page, which has some information on it, and if he wants to find out how much he will be paid, the EBA is available on the NT Government web site

From Airnorth's Web Site

Employment Opportunities
Applications are always welcome for:

Pilots with at least 1000 hours total time and 500 hours Multi-Engine Command. Endorsement on SA227, EMB120 or ERJ170 or Turbine Experience is highly desirable.

Licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineers with:
Airframe Groups 1, 5, 6 & 10
Engine Groups TPE331, PW100 or CF34
Electrical, Instrument & Groups

Current Vacancies
DIRECT ENTRY CAPTAINS
Due to our continued growth and the expected delivery of our 2nd and 3rd E170 Jets in 2009, Airnorth have advancement opportunities like never before. We currently seek Direct Entry Captains for our Brasilia and Metro23 aircraft. After meeting current commitments to our existing aircrew, we expect suitably qualified applicants to be capable of flying our jets within 2 years.

Applicants must have a minimum of:

2000 hours Total Time
500 hours Multi Engine Command
100 hours Turbine
ATPL and MECIR
Endorsement on Type is highly desirable.
"A tropical lifestyle in a world class career"

If you are interested in joining Northern Australia's premier regional airline please forward your resume to:
[email protected]
Or fax to (08) 8920 4095

Benefits
- Competitive salaries - based on regular salary benchmarking with guaranteed CPI Increases each year.
- Training & Development - opportunities for development across the organisation
- Travel - discounted travel benefits for you, family & friends (subject to policy)
- Employee Assistance Program - 24hr support for team members and their families
- Gala events - free or subsidized for Airnorth staff
- Salary packaging options - such as Laptops, PDA's, Superannuation and Vehicles
- Corporate Medical Benefits Fund - through our preferred supplier

Department Profiles
Darwin Airport - Customer Service, Ticketing, Reservations, Ground Handling & Day of Operations
Engineering - Avionics, Mechanical, Purchasing, Inventory, Stores, Maintenance Planning
HAAMC - Maintenance Control and Data & Technical Records
Flight Operations - Flight Crew - Captains, First Officers, Training & Checking and Cabin Attendants
Commercial - Scheduling, Pricing & Yield, Operations, Sales & Marketing, Systems Development
Compliance - Quality Assurance, Safety, Security & Documentation Control
Finance - Accounts Payable & Receivable, Payroll, Accounting and Revenue
Human Resources - Recruitment, Industrial Relations, Conditions of Service and Training & Development

Work Experience
Airnorth supports several Secondary Schools in Darwin and surrounds and welcomes the opportunity to assist students interested in a career in Aviation.
Applications for Work Experience should be provided in writing at least 3-4 weeks in advance and include the students details, the Schools agreement form and details of insurance coverage.

Click here to request more information.

Non-Residents
Overseas applicants with extraordinary or specialized skills may be considered for employment, however, Airnorth has a policy to recruit primarily within Australia, contributing to our local economy and providing employment opportunities to Australian Residents.
Before being considered applicants must be able to demonstrate that they are aware of the process involved in obtaining a 457 Visa and for gaining recognition of their overseas Qualification through the appropriate regulatory body.

Recruitment Process
Recruitment processes will vary depending on the type of job and the location of the applicant. As a guide recruitment will include:
- Short listing applicants against the position criteria
- Interviews either face-to-face or by phone
- Group sessions will always be conducted for Cabin Attendant recruitment
- Reference checks of at least 2 referees
- Validation of qualifications
- Skills testing
- Character Health Checks
All applicants in a recruitment campaign will be advised of the outcome of their application.

justin daway 26th Feb 2009 01:01

guys/girls

I'm looking for any real info on pay for metro / bras captains

I have just applied here but before going ahead with the interview want to know the pay scale. I've heard $40K and if this is correct, simply cant afford to work for them.....

Just any REAL info would be nice :ok:


Justin

justin daway 27th Feb 2009 07:17

Back to the top....

Come on guys, am close to the mark with $40k???

Anyone willing to post the actual figure?

Stationair8 27th Feb 2009 13:58

Mate, I think good old Air North pay a bit better than that.

A ball park figure for a Captain would be around the $80k mark.

ITCZ 1st Mar 2009 04:44


Originally Posted by Dog One
and if he wants to find out how much he will be paid, the EBA is available on the NT Government web site

No, it is not.

Jesus wept.
You compare career progression in airnorth with QF...
You post large slabs from a company website that all these poor b@stards have told you they read and complained that it does not give them the info they want...
And direct them to a state/territory government website for information on a federal agreement...... that appears to not exist!

Mate, you are MANAGEMENT material!:D:D

The 'airnorth wannabes' want to know how much they will be paid.

Do them a favour.

You said you know the link to the agreement, and that you know the payrates.

Post them.

Dog One 1st Mar 2009 05:21

Have a bad night ITCHY, piles burning are they.

tio540 1st Mar 2009 05:40


As for more expansion, I suspect Bridge is desperately looking for a way out of the following jets or going to start a child care centre in them. With SkyAir operating darwin Dilli and beyond, McCarthr river all but sunk for the moment, Bali gone to Jetstar what are they going to do with 3 jets except bleed $$$$. ScareNorth have never NEVER been able to compete against other company's on the same routes. I don't believe anything has changed.This is not an inovative company. Guess why Patick/Toll have a dash 8 in Darwin, why did the Timor govt go with Skyair. Simply because AirNorth are unable to live up to their talk. Rubbish service and unreliable.
Renurp I think your info is out of date.

Skyair - no appearance for their first scheduled flight, or any other.

Mac River - has been approved in principle

Jetstar - announce big Darwin expansion then cut back

Patrick/Toll - Mmmmmmmm

Virgin - wound back

AirNorth is a quiet achiever, and there is no need for you to bag the smaller operator. Congrats on your $145 per year, do any of us really care?

John Citizen 1st Mar 2009 05:49


AirNorth is a quiet achiever
What have they achieved with Regionalink ? :ooh:

How well did they achieve in South Australia ? :ooh:

tio540 1st Mar 2009 08:15


What have they achieved with Regionalink ?
The other partners did/are falling over.


How well did they achieve in South Australia?
They lost money and kept on going.

Ansett cost them $1.6 mil, and they traded through. You guys should give them the credit they are due. No, I have never worked for A.N.

John Citizen 1st Mar 2009 08:34


The other partners did/are falling over.
What other partners ? Please name some.


They lost money and kept on going
Yes, kept on going losing money and couldn't turn it around. They eventually pulled out. Is that an achievement to be proud of ?

Maybe this is the real meaning of "quiet achiever" is. lets keep quiet about what we didn't achieve.

However I do have to give them credit for operating a jet !!! One of their achievements amongst other failures.

Goat Whisperer 1st Mar 2009 09:12

I think the "other partners" referred to are/were Emu Air and Airlines of South Australia.

tio540 1st Mar 2009 10:07

C'mon John, there isn't a company anywhere that hasn't had some losses, somewhere. Knowing some of the staff at S.A. at the time it's a wonder they did as well as they did.:)

Geez if Q looses money on Penang to Sh$%tsville will you bag the entire operation?

Dog One 14th Apr 2009 10:34

From Australian Aviation, a update for all you keen Ppruners to bag!


* AIRNORTH TAKES SECOND E-JET, TWO MORE TO COME? Airnorth took delivery of its second Embraer E-170 on April 8 at Sao Jose dos Campos, Brazil, and has announced that it intends to further expand its fleet.
The 76 seat E-170AR is on lease from Miami based lessor Jetscape Inc, and will allow the airline to fly from Darwin to every Australian capital city with a full load. Airnorth has previously said that it intends to use the aircraft on international charter services to and from Darwin into Asia, with the aircraft capable of nonstop flights to destinations including Manila and Kuala Lumpur.
The airline's CEO Michael Bridge noted that since it introduced its first E-170 in August 2007 that it has gained a strong acceptance among its customers, particularly among its contract charter customers. As a result, the airline's board has made it its intention to operate four E-170s by mid-2010, according to a press release from Embraer.
Airnorth also has a fleet of EMB-120 and Fairchild Metroliner turboprops, and serves a mix of RPT services across the Northern Territory as well as long term contract charters supporting the mining and petroleum industries. The airline is also currently the only carrier offering flights between Australia and Dili in East Timor.

Pinky the pilot 15th Apr 2009 11:45


Knowing some of the staff at S.A. at the time it's a wonder they did as well as they did.
Care to elaborate on that statement tio540? Via pm if you wish.

Stationair8 19th Apr 2009 06:40

South Australia always been a hard place to make money. The only operater that did okay was Don Kendall, but even he would have wondered what he got himself into at Ansett's bequest.

Lincoln Airlines, Pagas, Lloyds, O'Connors, Commodore, Williams, Opal, Silver City Airlines are just a few from the last 20 years.


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