Looking for a C206 rating in South Island of New Zealand
 

I'm looking to do a C206 rating. I'm in Christchurch, but I can travel, prefer some one in the South Island. Anyone know someone that would be able to help me out please? What sort of hourly rate (approx. is fine) would they charge?

Give Phil Kean (CP/CFI) a ring at Mainland Air in NZDN. Pretty sure that there's not one there, but I am sure Phil will know where to find one.

Yea, I've had prior dealing with Canterbury Aviation, and while they were friendly and professional, he charged insane hourly rates. I'm talking about NZ$3000+ for a C180/185 including a tail dragger conversion.

Was hoping to get something within the 3 figure range.

Hi.
The Nelson Aviation college over at mot has a 206 which gets hired out for type ratings

Wakatipu aeroclub in Queenstown should be able to help there..

You'll find Canterbury Aviation don't do any training anymore since the change of hands. PM & KM used to do 206 ratings for students who knew them well, but was quite expensive due insurance.

Surely you jest; a rating is not required for a single engine piston airplane less than 5700Kg is it?

boofhead - in nz a rating is required for each aircraft you wish to fly. you must be thinking of the aussie rules.

I actually hold a NZ licence but have not used it for many years. I don't remember having to get a rating for, say, a C172.
If I fly the C172 do I need a rating for a Cherokee?
I do remember in Aus, many years ago, having all my airplane types listed on the licence, but it was long since that they made a group rating for all the little single engine airplanes; they did not do this in NZ? I thought NZ followed the US rules in general? In the US I can fly any airplane below 12,500 lb, single or multi, land or sea, conventional gear or training wheel, certified, experimental or sport, and in fact instruct on any of these, with no "rating" or pilot checkout of any kind. The only type I cannot fly without a checkout and some training are ultra-light and glider. The responsibility for the pilot approval to fly an airplane less than 12.500 lb that has a propeller (including turbine propeller) rests with the owner. In some cases the insurance company might have restrictions as well. But the FAA is not involved, which is refreshing.

Good point e48, had forgotten about the Wakatipu AC 206 -it's an IO-550 too. Best to get onto them smartly before the season starts or availability would be an issue. A good place to tack a Mountain Flying course onto the rating too, make full benefit of the training and the area.

I'm almost certain PK at Mainland still has access to a 206 too, so worth a call.

The cost of flying!
 

Xavian said,
The charter rate for a C185/C206 is about $550 NZ per hour, so for 5 plus hours a rate of 3000K NZD from no tail wheel time to C185 type rating is bloody good value. By having his C185 on training adds $1,500 per year to his insurance alone!

PM charged what it costs to operate a C185, hanger it, keep a building for the school and charter operations, pay for the power and phone etc. All this and he managed to keep his aircraft in good condition, plus a wage. Why do you decry him from making a living by charging a realistic rate for his C185? Do you think he should just provide it all for free?

Most GA operators do not charge enough for their aircraft to even cover minimum maintanence cost, a decent wage for the instructor, plus a return to owner. Whakatipu Aero club is a good case as they were charging their C206 at rates so low they almost went broke, and had to sell the aircraft to stay operational. They are an OK operator, had good maint, room and paid their staff a living wage, but the aircraft charge out rate could not cover the costs of operating!

Xavian

If you are hoping to get a 206 rating for less than a grand you are dreaming.
I did my 185 rating at Canterbury Aviation in PM's machine and paid appropriately. That was some of the best training I have ever done - well worth the money.

Boofhead

The old group rating system went west with the new rules years ago. You need a rating for each aircraft type - I think the only exemption is those that hold ATPLs and A Cats. Which I'm sure Xavian won't have as he is asking the question on this forum.

WTF?
...another NZ aviation myth for the naive
It's not the space shuttle...
:suspect:

Most reputable companies won't let you away by yourself unless you've done a minimum of 2 hours training - at $500 an hour (our charter rate is about $600 an hour), you're at the magic grand to spend.

It may not be the space shuttle, but the new type rating requirements in Part 61 mean you have to do a training flight as well as a competency check on the type before signing it off - this form also has to be submitted to the CAA.

dont take it as fact but im not sure if wakatipu still have the 206, i havent seen it in my trips up there for a while now.

Yep they still have a 206, ETN. Training rate for it is $465/hr :ok:

"another NZ aviation myth for the naive"

Troppo

"Training rate for it is $465/hr "

That would be about 2hrs 10 mins flying for a grand.

Oh don't forget Airport and Airways charges ($30 & $6.50 per flight)

So ridiculous you could be burning around in the P68 by yourself in chch for that kinda cash!

snowmonsta " So ridiculous you could be burning around in the P68 by yourself in chch for that kinda cash!"

Yeah but the 206 is a heap of fun and a useful rating if you want to get some work in Africa or Oz.

Knox.

If I was you Id find the job first and then tell the operator you will self fund the 206 rating.

Have you looked at skydive Taupo?

But yeah heaps of 206's in Botswana and RSA.