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Biggles_in_Oz 3rd Sep 2008 12:02

Bob

Trouble is there are a lot of aeroplanes that don't have the grunt of the Maule or the 285 HP wizzers to get above 5000ft in summer without a special incantation and a lot of patience. IFR traffic at those heights and at speed is dumb as a general rule don't you think?
Eh ? You want the IFRs to be below A050 or so ?
I only have 200hp and I'd be lucky to do 130kts IAS, but I do like to fly around 9000ish when I can.
Everything that FTDK just said about flying high is true, plus the view is better !

ForkTailedDrKiller 3rd Sep 2008 13:00


I have flown into Hughenden a few times, I guess this is an RPT security controlled airport now
Errr, YHUG? As in west of YBTL? RPT? I don't think so!


aeroplanes do land there for fuel
Not anymore they don't! Used to a top spot to drop into for fuel. Honour system! Keys and book in the power box - leave a check!

I guess they got ripped off once too often!

Dr :8

tail wheel 3rd Sep 2008 19:36

Hughenden receives RPT air services on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, between Townsville and Mt Isa.

It is a Queensland Transport subsidised air route.

ForkTailedDrKiller 3rd Sep 2008 19:48


Hughenden receives RPT air services on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, between Townsville and Mt Isa
Well there you go! Shows what I know - not much, obviously!

Can't say I have ever heard any RPT go in there - must be a stealth op!

Dr :8

james michael 3rd Sep 2008 20:22

Dr

Like google, ERSA is our friend (note 2 for Hughenden). Lot easier to find there than the list on the Dept of Alphabet website :)

Amazing is it not that someday ADS-B may be mandated by CASA to even fly into 'day on day off' backwaters.

(PS I loved your manhole cover analogy)

Bob Murphie 4th Sep 2008 00:01

Biggles;

IFR traffic below 5000ft and at speed is dumb if you aren't prepared to look out the window. I could have tidied up the syntax, sorry.

FTDK;

Where does the Gulf traffic from south get fuel now? The fuel agent I remember would bring you out a burger if you asked. Just looking at ERSA and it says AD charges $6.05/tonne landing. ACFT 5700 KG or ABV $8.25/ tonne landing. Flight training exercises to be paid for the first four landings per day thereafter free of charge. Also, This AD is a security controlled airport. Fuel, Townsville agent 24h PN required and half hour prior notice prior to arrival W, HJ. E $45 callout applies.

That would be the reason for your near miss with a cowboy not wanting to pay anything. Thats progress for you, same RPT movements as 10 years ago I bet, but a negative thinking Local Govt making a safe airport into a potentially unsafe one because they failed to acknowledge there is a thing called human nature.

ADSB won't alter this unless the tool is used for serviellance for AVDATA.

Stayed at Muttaburra one night, mates mate owned the pub there. Take off was fraught with danger of collision with thousand of Brown Kites. Had a similar problem at Karumba also.


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