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Alternate 9th Jul 2008 02:05

VAustralia Cruise FO Interview
 
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone who has gone through the interview process for V Australia Cruise FO could share their experience? Any info would be greatly appreciated. :ok:
Cheers.

KRUSTY 34 9th Jul 2008 04:42

Of even more interest maybe.

I am wondering if anyone who has gone through the interview process for V Australia Senior F/O could share their experience? Any info would be greatly appreciated.:ok:

Cheers.

chode1984 9th Jul 2008 07:23

Cruise FO? What are the requirements for that?

Gearupandorrf 9th Jul 2008 07:35

Cruise FO requirements...
 
Primarily have the ability to live in BNE or SYD on about $50K a year.:mad::ugh:

Alternate 14th Jul 2008 01:11

Cruise FO Requirements
 
Chode1984
  • 1,000 hours fixed wing experience (turbine experience desirable)
  • 500 hours on multi-engine aircraft
  • Current ICAO ATPL (or Australian CPL with passes in all ATPL theory subjects), command instrument rating and class one medical
  • English language fluency (written and verbal comprehension)
  • An ability to communicate effectively in a dynamic operational environment
  • The desire to learn and grow
  • Ability to live and work in Australia
  • B777 type rating desirable
  • Wide body long haul experience desirable

ozbiggles 14th Jul 2008 01:29

Tell em their dreaming!
Who in the world with that on their CV would ever contemplate a cruise FO job for 50 K.....but we pilots already know that I guess

Jet_A_Knight 14th Jul 2008 13:47


Tell em their dreaming!
Who in the world with that on their CV would ever contemplate a cruise FO job for 50 K.....but we pilots already know that I guess
Yeah! With those kind of hours, you should expect a Concorde command!:hmm:

drshmoo 14th Jul 2008 14:57

The pay for the FO is also terrible - $117k salary. You can make that as an S/O on the A330 in your 2nd year. Couldnt be much more than some of the VB 737 senior F/Os.

Even Jetstar got rid of their cruise F/Os

carbon 15th Jul 2008 00:40


Who in the world with that on their CV would ever contemplate a cruise FO job for 50 K.....but we pilots already know that I guess
Yeah those who are scratching for 30k and doing a whole lot more leg work.......it may not be ideal, but if its ALL you have on offer and its going to improve your lifestyle..... WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?

Roger Copy Ta 15th Jul 2008 00:44

What do you expect?
 
Integrity and patience.

carbon 15th Jul 2008 00:52

I fail to see how someone who is signing up for the long haul with a company, in a junior position on low pay, with the hope of progression and improvement in T&C's, is showing anything but integrity and patience.

KRUSTY 34 15th Jul 2008 02:45

Chr!st almighty carbon, have a look at the PB threads. History has shown that those who believe that tripe are simply in for a reaming!

As for hope of progression. Check out the contract. you'll be a second officer for life. And make no mistake, S/O hours are virtually worthless. So if you see this "shortcut" as the answer then "Caveat Emptor". IMHO, you would be much better off taking your experience and moving up the G/A, Regional ladder.

rbt777 15th Jul 2008 11:28

cant see any reply...
 
Hi Mate,
did you hear anything back ref your v australia senior fo post? i'm interested to know what the deal is with their interview and pay etc as well. good luck and please let me know what you learn?
Thanks.

TopTup 15th Jul 2008 21:04

CX DEFO based in Aust = $96 k per year. After 4 years = $117 k per year. Correct me if I'm wrong...???

So, VA seems to be better a better offer than CX. Who would have thought? Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

The CRFO position is like calling a Travelodge receptionist an "international guest liason officer". Call it what it is: Second Officer. Career progressoin? 2-3 years as SO then (probably / possibly) FO with DJ, then RE-APPLY for your a positoin with VA, with past "experience" taken into account.

As per a previous post, for those willing to take that money for that job CAN NEVER have the right to complain about the accomodation, meals, allowances, roster, or least of all salary. You have just contributed to lowering the standards. I have no issues about people taking the job - each to their own and I can't know every person's situation. But know what you have done. Eyes wide open people with your decision.

captaintunedog777 16th Jul 2008 00:47

drshmoo The pay for the FO is also terrible - $117k salary. You can make that as an S/O on the A330 in your 2nd year. Couldnt be much more than some of the VB 737 seniorF/O Even Jetstar got rid of their cruise F/Os


So genius how does a non airline pilot get to a SO 2nd year on the 330. I smell a sky god here. Gee our industry is looking so bright .

Dropt McGutz 16th Jul 2008 02:08

I suppose by being successful with his Qantas application but I'm digressing. I was reading in yesterdays' business section of the Herald Sun that Branson is casting some doubts as to if V are going to start this year now.

ozbiggles 16th Jul 2008 02:22

Let me explain my comment a bit more for you JAK
If you had a 777 rating and long haul time you would work for 50K in Sydney doing a 1000hrs a year as a cruise FO?
If those T & Cs are good enough for you go for it!
Now if you are working for 30K, don't have a 777 rating then maybe it might seem like a good price for your skills.
And heres one back for you....:ugh:

Dropt McGutz 16th Jul 2008 02:27

But how much do they charge you for a rating? I think you'd be working a long time to pay that back. And I reckon it would be a big risk for a young sprog buying one with no jet time with the way things are.

Jet_A_Knight 16th Jul 2008 06:00

Hey Ozbiggles....it was the 1000hrs bit I was having a go at.:eek:

You're dead-set right about the 777rating etc bit.:ok:

I was more having a nip at the status of min requirements these days that people are sneering at once sought - after jobs on a Dash8, SAAB etc....I thought you were alluding to that.:uhoh:

Hard to pick subtleties in typeset.

For the record, I reckon VOZ are being a bit too cute throwing out a deal like that, and as far a I'm concerned, the S.O deal sucks for most professional drivers, but I understand that we live in a free-world, and some people will take the gig in the hope it puts them in a better position further down the track. It's not my bag - but that's their business, not mine.

SmalltimeSteve 16th Jul 2008 10:12

So smart you guys!
 
I happen to know a little about this position and for some (krusty) get your facts right. God you guys give me the s%*&s with all this crap you post thinking you know everything about everything... you don't so just shut up and go back to the holes you all came out of!


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