Engineers risking my job!
 

If they keep on with their pay claim many including myself will lose their job. Why should they get 5% when most others in the company only get 3 % and that is based on their performance, that is, it is not automatically given. They have now managed to mess up so many who had holidays planned long ago - great work, just get on with the job you are paid to do or move on. In fact the ones who really deserve a pay increase are the Qantas Link pilots. Mr Dickson should cut mainline pilot wages for them.A Qantas Link Pilot works much harder than along haul one, and we all know that- what's the saying " beats working for aliving"
These guys are placing the whole companies future in jeopardy, one only has to look to America to see what can happen.
I know most people agree with this but are not always willing to say so.
:}

Hmmmmm - just trying to guess your age.....must be about 14, no wait, 13.
However, if I am wrong and you are actually involved in aviation, please find another field immediately.

umm , if you dont like it leave!!! but i think many other sectors outside aviation are also asking for around 5%. last i remember i think teachers and most govt sectors are also looking for 5%....oh yeah back in the aviation sector i think the ATC guys are risking your job even more if you think 5% is too much they want 63%, oh how about Saudi Arabia, Iran,Israel maybe you should have a chat to them as well since they are also putting up the price of oil. which also is risking your job.

also you state that "others in the company only get 3 % and that is based on their performance" well if thats the case we should be getting a nice bonus every year!! engineering is so understaffed its beyond a joke. everyone is doing 110% until the recent union action and it now shows how understaff we really are!!!

The only thing i do agree with you on is the Qlink pilots do deserve more $$$.

If you can't stand the heat, you get out of the kitchen.

This is the way industrial negotiations have been run since the first industrial relations showdowns commenced in the mills of the north of England, almost four hundred years ago.

We need men and women of conviction to fix and fly our aeroplanes. Grow a pair, or get out.

There is a shortage, you mug, and that is the way labour economics works.
Oh really? In your mind only, I think. We seem to be running 1:3 in this informal poll here so far.

Maybe "most people" should grow a pair too and say what they think.

And today's "RJ Hawke memorial Wind Up" award goes to......................wait for it..................

Uninformed risking my job
 

inandout.

You believe too much of management's rhetoric. Maybe you should look in the mirror and say 'should I keep bending over and copping it without lube?'

What the engineers are asking for is more than reasonable. They are asking for money that is owed to them when the price of fuel was not as high as it is now. No one complained when they took a wage freeze when times were tough.

Who are you to judge? If you have a problem with your salary or other people's salary, you have a chance to "BARGAIN" with the company with whatever means are legal. That is what the engineers are doing. Standing up for what is fair and just. If you don't like it complain to all those managers and executives earning millions in bonuses through your efforts.


WAKE UP!!!!!:}

And your first post too. :rolleyes:

Can't wait to read your next ones, IF you survive. ;)

A life lesson for you, it isn't about working harder it's about working smarter

Yeah where the board fire employees so they can then get bonuses whilst the airline goes down the gurgler.

Be interested in a comparison of Dixon's Real pay increases vs the staffs.

oh boo hoo inandout...

Have you ever stood up and fought for yourself eh? no..i thought not :hmm:

All airlines are in absolute peril with this fuel thing and these guys are just helping to tip the company over the edge, then none of us will have work.
Why can't they see that- because it's not their money.
Not many airlines will survive this fuel crisis but I hope Qantas is one that does..:}

Inandout, you poor naive person. Please do not leave the island as you will be shocked at the real world out there where people genuinely struggle, and in the case of the Qantas LAMES they are very deserving of the pay increase, as are all LAMES.
Did you know the average age of the LAMES is about 58 and if the profession is not made attractive to the younger people there will be even less than there are now.
Contrary to opinion the skills needed to maintain modern aircraft are very high, from an apprentice to a skilled engineer is roughly ten years and the equivalent to a couple of university degrees in education and exams with a pass mark of 75%.
Please refrain from commenting on something you definitely know so little about. Better still try and talk to a LAME and get a first hand idea what they are facing in QF today.

Maybe the "company" should have thought about that before they cut all the engineering to shreds, and became dependent on the few remaining working overtime to make it up. Now that the remaining few aren't willing to work overtime, the "company" is in the ****. Simple solution really. Pay them what they are worth. Remember the pay freezes? What has inflation been like the last few years? Care to take a guess at how far behind engineers wages are these days? Thought not. If this drives a certain GD out of the company, you'll ALL be better off. Going to thank those that helped it happen when it does? Or will you just accept what others gained for you?:yuk:

I've got to fly with dickheads like this and they embarass the crap out of me. Yeah, sure we deserve more money but why at the expense of mainline? What's your input industrially?? Looser. :mad::mad:

Engineers do a great job but no more than those working in the office for much less. Why are they so special for doing their job, after all that was their choice. I know many working for Qantas who work just as hard and received only 3%, in fact some got nil. I do work in the industry and find most pilots and people agree with me but are hesitant to say so.:}

I am amazed that they only want 5%, as far as I am concerned they should be looking for a hell of a lot more. The company I work for are looking down the barrel of 25% over 3 years, the pilots are asking for more than 30%. The days of the airlines paying good money for engineers seems to have long gone. If my flights get delayed due to industrial action so be it.

Hmm, my troll detector just went off!!:ugh:

sounds like a troll to me

Sooky Sooky Lah Lah:):=:D:ok::ok::ok:

Hi Geoff - is Leigh starting to get annoyed?

It obviously makes sense to accept 3% with inflation running at > 4%. Doesn't it? :ugh: