My pride:sad:

Mate, If disco bay is short for discovery bay in hong knog, then Im going to assume it has been a while since you have been back home to NZ.

A brand new C cat can walk strainght into some sweet little paying jobs these days (sure some of the CTC lads can give you the pay rates).
The employment scene really changed in NZ about this time last, (not to the exteme as some of those countrys you mentioned though) Pac Blue will look at you once you hit 1000 hours, and even Qantas link is taking a lot of low time kiwi GA boys and girls.

Jtn747 you have the right attitude mate, and Im sure you will go far. Your getting into aviation at a great time, but remeber there is no shame in being paied to load bags or scrub bogs to get your foot in the door. Most of us did it.

there IS shame, but most of us did it:O

horserun, thats great news! you're right, I'm a long way out of GA, and very happy to hear they're actually paying people now. In my GA days there was a large number of losers whoring themselves out for free. Made it very tough for those of us with an ounce of self respect :rolleyes: so when someone advises a low hour pilot to go and beg to be allowed to wash an aircraft, with the inference that they won't be paid for doing so, that really grates on me.

So where are all the instructors for these cadets going to come from? I mean seriously no one is going to be "stupid" enough to become an instructor when they can go directly into an airline...? Or will the "drop out" airline cadets become instructors to train the other airline cadets? :ugh: :ok:

cutter2
 

Too many in HAM circuit now. On a good day Airways a bit rushed, dosent help controllers that dont fly or have an interst in aviation other than $$$. Big flight schools talk too much on the radio with stuff unimportant to the job.I get sick of it on busy day, dont know how controllers keep it together.:ugh::ok:

Actually some of the controllers DO fly, and have a genuine interest in aviation (not to mention your safety). The issue of having HLZ as a training airfield may need to be addressed, but controllers have to train somewhere! Being held outside the zone for 10 minutes, near misses in the circuit due 5 or 6 circuiting/coming/going, and some ESOL issues are no fun for anyone.

Give Them A Break
 

Yep I'm with you toolowtoofast, Give the controllers at Hamilton a break. Its busy airspace now. There is not a controller out there that i don't know, and they all do the job because they love it and all do it to the best of there ability. Range of experience varies and you get it with time!!!! How good a pilot were you after only 2 years etc. Let me guess cutter2! been the industry a long time, think everyone should jump through hooops with years of training before they are aloud to operate in "our" elitist world we call aviation, whether it be as pilots or ATCO......Bolocks. Its Hamilton get a grip. Its a great training place all round. I wish some of us pilots would stop trying to turn flying aeroplanes into something other than just a big fun game.