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Jabawocky 19th Mar 2008 06:22

Radar Coverage Map
 
I have had a look at the ASA website and could not find a decent map showing radar coverage, and of most interest at the lower levels.

Does such a thing exist? Or is it a heavily guarded secret? :E.

If anyone knows of one I would be interested to see it.

J

aileron_69 19th Mar 2008 08:13

There is a radar coverage map available somewhere, I remember seeing one on the wall of an aeroclub somewhere but it was so long ago I cant remember where it was.

Jabawocky 19th Mar 2008 08:57

5 posts(4 replies) and only one sensible reply.....:ooh: Thats better than average!!:}

No Forkie, not trying to sneak under....just wondering how I could stay in it more in fact!;)

As for stealth.....if I get a moderate distance from a radar head and go silent....I can be invisible!:E

I imagine a map a bit like a phone coverage map would be around somewhere.

J:ok:

PS......DAVE, no way ya Cessna is gonna be as stealthy mate:D

northcoastal 19th Mar 2008 10:33

Here's a SSR map

http://www.vatpac.org/vat-dean/australia/radar.jpg

Jabawocky 19th Mar 2008 22:54

Northcoastal:ok:

Thats a good start.

Be nice if it were more detailed but thats great!

Wot happened to all the other posts?.......my crack about sensible replies was half serious and half not......the humour here is part of the reason we all atend!

J

Lodown 19th Mar 2008 22:55

I suspect the "authorities" decline to put their name on one because the coverage can fluctuate so much from one day to the next. Do they publish the chart that shows extreme coverage on the best day of the year, the one that shows a conservative coverage based on the worst conditions of the year, or pick something in between and accept the criticism if the coverage doesn't meet or exceeds expectations on a given day?

Jabawocky 20th Mar 2008 00:51

I know it varies, but the one shown is a good example of a typical coverage map.

It could be handy when planning by taking a route that does not drop out all the time Vs a different one that was likely to stay in the radar coverage.

J:ok:

ForkTailedDrKiller 20th Mar 2008 02:41

Its kinda hard to believe that in 2008 (did you get that?).....

..... 2008 ! .....

...... you can depart YBUD and not be identified on radar until you have climbed through about 6000' !

Dr :8

PS: Its no wonder that you can detect a nervous twitch in the voices of the blow torch drivers going into Hervey Bay!

Flying Binghi 20th Mar 2008 02:57


you can depart YBUD and not be identified on radar until you have climbed through about 6000'
FTDK, does that mean you want more radars ?

ForkTailedDrKiller 20th Mar 2008 03:42


FTDK, does that mean you want more radars ?
Can't say I care particularly, but I would have thought the punters going into places like Hervey Bay in a 737 should insist on it!

SSR, ADSB, whatever!

Dr :8

Flying Binghi 20th Mar 2008 03:56

FTDK, Im not familure with YHBA jet ops, but the way fuel costs are going there may not be too many more Kero burners going to Hervy Bay - As Sir Richard suggests... take a train :ooh:

Jabawocky 20th Mar 2008 08:34

Low level ADSB as was originally proposed.....................stop now before I get on my soap box:ugh:

J:ugh:

Flying Binghi 20th Mar 2008 23:41

Dont the kero burners going to YHBA have TCAS?

Jaba, what happens to ADS-B when the civy GPS gets turned off or suffers from sun interference ?

PlankBlender 21st Mar 2008 00:13

ADS-B
 
Flying B, he then at least has a mode S transponder still transmitting his ID, and he's most likely to be on the screen of someone and in radio contact with them, and that in many more places than currently..

Dick Smith 21st Mar 2008 00:29

In the "hole" near Hervey Bay why not put in a few multilateration transceivers - as being installed in Tassie.

Then the system would work as if covered by SSR without the cost of the as yet uncertified ADSB.

By the way- when will the Tassie system be completed? It was supposed to be Dec last year.

Jabawocky 21st Mar 2008 06:08

Flying Binghi

what hapens......you go back to the basic level of radar we have now, less a few old enroute radars. Somehow I do not think your negativity is all that relevant. If so things like the Y2K bug would have wiped us all out.

J:ok:

Flying Binghi 21st Mar 2008 07:33

what happens to ADS-B when the civy GPS gets turned off ...


what hapens......you go back to the basic level of radar we have now, less a few old enroute radars.
Jaba,

And what about all the mony spent installing ADS-B equipment in aircraft, all the ADS-B repeater stations and ATC related stuff - all wasted money.

...I suppose I will end up with some more useless electronic junk to put on the shelf..... right next to the DME(A) unit.

Jabawocky 21st Mar 2008 10:28

Lighten up mate.....I hear your DME story.....but if you look around the rest of the world the GPS thingy is the go:ok:

Roger Standby 21st Mar 2008 10:46

Dick,

WAM in Tassie is due to go online shortly and undergo initial testing. I believe that it will be compared against the radar data and then hopefully on to the operational platform before mid year. Of course like the ADS-B project, the number of site locations has been reduced as time has gone on. AsA are keen to get it up and running asap as the "portable" radar is an expensive asset which would be better used if made "portable" again...

Dick Smith 21st Mar 2008 23:00

Roger, why have the number of site locations for multilateration and ADSB been reduced?

It's news to me and a bombshell!

If the contract called for a certain number of locations in Tassie why would this be changed? How can the system work correctly with less sites?

And,by the way.what's happened to the low level ADSB proposal? Is it true that the whole proposal has been dumped, including millions of dollars of waste, but no one is game to say so?


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