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XRNZAF 6th Feb 2008 07:30

Attempting NZ 'B' Cat "On the Mins"
 
Hi,

Just wanting to hear from people that have recently attemped their B cat flight test with pretty much the minimum hour requirements. Did you pass or fail? Was it alot harder/easier than you expected? That sort of thing.

So far, I've heard varying reports on weather its a good idea or not... :uhoh:

Cheers,

XRNZAF

Frynog 6th Feb 2008 07:52

Was close to the mins doing mine, passed though i swear i got 50% of the p of f wrong! Horrible experience, but worth it at the end of it all.

conflict alert 6th Feb 2008 16:59


So far, I've heard varying reports on weather its a good idea or not
If you want to be a CAT B on mins you will need to be able to use the queen's english correctly - weather / whether !!:}

soutie48 6th Feb 2008 20:28

That queen has a Q!!!!
Glass houses init...

XRNZAF 7th Feb 2008 01:24

Yes, point taken Mr Conflict Alert....

Interesting post Frynog, anymore for any more?

flysaucer1200 7th Feb 2008 04:03

The Student Teaching
 
conflict alert
If you correct or dictate to another human being, then you must make sure that you are correct yourself. Unfortunately, it seems you have made more mistakes in your attempt to correct the person you were trying to correct. As, soutie48 stated, capital Q, and now I must also remind you that English should have a capital E.





XRNZAF 7th Feb 2008 04:38

Gentlemen please!
 
Don't get me wrong I like top-notch grammar, punctuation and spelling just as much as the next guy... But before this thread descends into a 3rd form English lesson, could I please request any further info relating to the initial question.:}

conflict alert 7th Feb 2008 04:47

I think you will find that The Concise Oxford Dictionary makes all reference to the 'queen' as exactly that..small q.

As for english - when talking about a language and not a person then small e is fine.

I certainly was not dictating nor correcting - merely making a point:)

nike 7th Feb 2008 07:24

FFS!!!

I did mine 10+ years ago sorry, but I guess in an attempt to move this thread away from the dictionary twats, a couple of points that may or may not be of any use to you....

The B Cat ticket is best looked upon as say, completing your apprenticeship. That is to say if you approach the flight test with a good understanding of what holding a B cat rating will allow you to do, i.e. responsibilities etc; then being slightly deficient in the P of F and tech knowledge areas may be overlooked.

Concepts of being a supervisor to junior instructors, mentoring, the ability to hold a CFI position, sending people solo, CPL cross-country flight tests, and most importantly of all, having an excellent teaching technique which you have have developed during your time as a C Cat are really what they're looking for.

Having now experienced training at an international airline I have to say that the better instructors (training captains) are those with the right attitude towards the task, that being parting of knowledge, and the ability to pass the message efficiently - a skill in itself.

What I am suggesting, as you mention you are pretty much on bare minimums, is to spend as much time as possible honing your skills at patter and briefing technique over endless hours of P of F study. The ability to demonstrate the flying techniques to a very high standard is obviously a must and really goes without saying, but its one thing to complete a flawless max-rate if you can't explain how you did it.

The point being is to prove to the FTO that you are ready and no further experience needs to be gained in order to hold the B Cat ticket - a slightly different concept possibly to previous flight tests in the sense that this is about demonstrating experience through mainly dialogue versus pure flying skills.

All the best.

XRNZAF 8th Feb 2008 02:50

Ah ha! Finally a post worth reading!

Very good post Mr (Mrs?) Nike.

Yes I had come to a similar conclusion to be honest, all of my work mates/bosses are all 3000hr+ B cats and all of them say that its one thing to pass the test, its quite another to actually 'BE' a B cat worth feeding.

I certainly don't consider myself to be 'of the standard' yet, with some training I could probably get there. But I don't think thats really the way to go.

Will put it off for another year or so and see what happens.

Cheers all! (yes, even the grammar nazi's!):8

XRNZAF

ForkTailedDrKiller 8th Feb 2008 03:20

Except that in NZ, having a "B" Cat means that you might actually get paid!

Dr :8

XRNZAF 8th Feb 2008 06:53

A valid point Mr FTDK, however I'm one of lucky few, who are fast become the lucky many workin as C cat instructors and earning a living AT THE SAME TIME! Long may it continue!:D


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