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bazza stub 20th Jan 2008 09:34

Air NZ?
 
Can anyone tell me what it's like to work for Air NZ? Good, bad or otherwise.


Cheers! :ok:

tartare 20th Jan 2008 18:04

Working at Air NZ
 
External image is of a company that has made big changes in culture and working practises - and that has turned around in performance.
Trying to portray itself as friendly and kiwi.
Internal reality is quite different.
A lot of good people.
But also a culture of quite vicious and underhanded bullying that extends right throughout the company to the very top.
Wouldn't give you two cents for the current CEO.
T&C's for pilots... not too bad realistically; many may disagree.

bazza stub 21st Jan 2008 01:34

Thanks Tartare

Sounds like par for the course then as far as airlines go.

:ok:

tartare 21st Jan 2008 01:41

Airlines
 
Yeah... true.
The surprising thing is that NZ seems quite friendly at first when you get there.
But after a while you start to see the true nature of the place... and when you do, boy oh boy... watch your back!!!
A lot of very mediocre people who've been there for many years, probably would struggle getting a job elsewhere, think they own the place and have nothing better to do than backstab others.
Having said that... also a few real gems.
Good luck.

J D 22nd Jan 2008 15:10

I have a several friends flying for Air NZ, both domestic and long haul, and everyone of them talk very highly of the company and their fellow pilots. I guess it is just like most any airline...both happy and disgruntled pilots. At least not everyone is miserable.

OhForSure 22nd Jan 2008 22:10

Narrowbody Rosters?
 
Are any of you chaps able to disclose what the narrowbody (ie Zeal & 737) rosters are like? Overnights? Hours per month? Days per month etc? Lifestyle? I understand the Zeal guys do out 'n' backs, but do these include ADL and CNS? So am I right to assume they wouldn't do more than 3-4 flights per week due to duty time limitations? Lastly, how much better off financially would one be in long-haul vs short-haul? Lifestyle vs Remuneration?

Cheers to anyone with the info.

Pool Boy 23rd Jan 2008 01:00

Hmm, you will have a few years sitting in the right seat of a 737 or the back of a widebody before a zeal job will become availible:}

rocketpocket 23rd Jan 2008 09:08

Have a rough idea of pay breakdown.....but what about allowances, flight pay/ sector pay and pension contributions?
Any info would really be appreciated (pm are fine too)!

standardbrief 23rd Jan 2008 18:12

i'd also be very interested if someone would care to share what short haul rosters are like. Also I don't understand why (if you wanted to go onto the 320s) why you'd have to start on the 735/4? would this still apply if you've got a fair bit of experience on the bus.

hot tuna 23rd Jan 2008 19:44

The Union - Many of the current Zeal Pilots( Ex Freedom) will also lose their seats on the A320 due to the cessation of Freedom and the Air NZ seniority system.

lingasting 24th Jan 2008 15:40

tartare

Seems like you have had a run in with the Billy Goat brigade.

tartare 25th Jan 2008 01:42

Run in
 
Well... my run in was actually with... how shall we say... the stripey shirted one.
What a charlie uniform november... he is.
Rest of them... they're ok.


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