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The Hill 6th Dec 2007 01:02

Are Jetstar still charging??
 
In the current climate, are jetstar still charging for endos?

The Hill 8th Dec 2007 17:40

anyone....?

OhSpareMe 8th Dec 2007 19:48

They certainly are. And so are Virgin Blue. And I guess Tiger is as well.

And I can't imagine any of them dropping the endorsement fee, despite the so-called 'climate.'

The Hill 8th Dec 2007 19:55

damn! ok. i thought vb stoped it for a "training wage" ???

Howard Hughes 8th Dec 2007 21:51

I understand VB have 'salary sacrifice' + a 'training wage'. ie: YOU PAY TWICE!!:hmm:

G Cantstandya 8th Dec 2007 22:28

JQ, salary sacrifice and full pay from finishing your endo!!

Roger Copy Ta 8th Dec 2007 22:53

I wouldn't exactly call it 'full pay' as it is 20% less than everyone else.

The Hill 8th Dec 2007 23:24

guess ill hold the CV off for a little while longer.

Mstr Caution 8th Dec 2007 23:45

The Hill

Apply elsewhere

turbantime 9th Dec 2007 00:59


I understand VB have 'salary sacrifice' + a 'training wage'. ie: YOU PAY TWICE!!
Not true Howard. You are paid a full salary from the day you start your induction (induction occurs after endorsement is complete). If you have taken the salary sacrifice option, then the endorsement cost is taken out from gross pay over a 12 month period.

So no training wages in effect because one way or another you are paying for your endorsement.

Howard Hughes 9th Dec 2007 01:07

Thanks for clearing that up!:ok:

Aerodynamisist 9th Dec 2007 01:27

Hong Kong is looking better all the time.

lesgo 9th Dec 2007 02:03

So go to HK Aero along with any one else who wishes to be righteous....
Nothing, nor no one, stopping you here.... We do live in a democratic country last time i checked.
My choice, however, is to stay. I can live in the same city as the rest of my family and friends, see them whenever I choose, not live too crowded, happy with the pay, awesome climate and I even get to watch my kids grow up in a stable environment. Having to salary sacrifice 30k? I consider that Priceless...
I've done my hard years in aviation, lived in the foriegn countries, lived in desolate areas in extreme temps and away from my loved ones for years on end, and now I just want to settle down and let the hard yards pay off.
If I am willing to pay for that, then no one will make me throw my opportunity away. As good as the industry is right now, just remember, it only takes a couple of crazy arabs to bring it all back down in the blink of an eye. I say jump at the chance while we have it....
My two cents (or 30k's) worth!!!!:E

Enema Bandit's Dad 9th Dec 2007 02:21

Me me me. Bugger everybody else. As long as I'm alright. :yuk::yuk::yuk:

iceblock 9th Dec 2007 02:48

So if you salary sacrifice, what do you really pay?

A check on a website with a salary sacrifice calculator:

A320 Endo for about $33K?

Gross salary 85K?

Over 3 years it seems to come out at about 20K all up. Or $6500 per year out of your pay.

You save a bit of tax to offset the cost.

Anyone able to verify this, or correct it?

Zhaadum 9th Dec 2007 04:21


Me me me. Bugger everybody else. As long as I'm alright.
Absafrigginlutely. I don't know ANYONE who would sacrifice their own or their familys' lifestyle for the good of the rest of the aviation community.

If you won't look out for yourself no one else will.

However, engaging in unscrupulous or unethical practices to get what you want at the expense of your colleagues is a definate no no. This industry is too small to do that. Karma will catch those people in the end.

turbantime 9th Dec 2007 07:04

Iceblock,

Yes, the approximate figures you have worked out are correct.

If you paid upfront or did the salary sacrifice thing you would still end up with the same "cash in hand" so to speak. This is because you would be eligible for a tax refund after paying for your endo up front.

HOWEVER, the salary sacrifice option definitely takes the pain out of it as you don't have to consult accountants, fill out paperwork or even respond to a challenge from the ATO. And of course there's the whole trick of when/how to pay and do the endo to make it a tax deduction.

G Cantstandya 9th Dec 2007 07:18

Back seat getting you down Rog???

Don't worry you'll have a window seat around 2020...not that far away really!!

Jetfume 9th Dec 2007 07:25

lesgo,

Hat of to you mate.:ok::ok:

ANYBODY out there who is considering paying for your endo DO IT . The reward is far greater than the outlay . Gotta laugh at the wanK&^%rs that write stuff like

Me me me. Bugger everybody else. As long as I'm alright. :yuk::yuk::yuk:
Who else do you need to look after ? Fcuk you and the donkey you rode in on . Those who CAN'T afford it will always get on PPrune and winge and tell us all we are this and that and that it will bite us in the end . NEVER has anyone said anything in my workplace regarding this issue . DON'T be guilted out of progressing and looking after number one by :mad::mad: .Who else is going to look after number one ?

My wage has increased , my family lifestyle has increased so much my children are in great schools . The price of the Endo was covered with in the first few mths over and above what i would have paid staying where i was ..

GUYS IF YOU HAVE A DREAM THEN GO FOR IT . DON'T LISTEN TO THE BULL**** BY PEOPLE THAT REFUSE TO PAY . IT WILL BE THE GREATEST INVESTMENT YOU WILL EVER MAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Watch the **** that comes my way from this post and you will see the amount of dreamers in aviation . Wait for the daddy's money comments etc etc you can fly 1950's ACFT or state of the art ACFT with better pay , decent travel destinations , job security etc etc

Aviation has two types . Those who go get it and those who refuse and winge on Pprune and sacrifice progression for the sake of someone else . Silly :ok:

LET the stupid comments begin!!!!!!!

Cap'n Arrr 9th Dec 2007 07:29

mind you, I hate being on a jetstar plane as a passenger, and if the passenger comes first then it truly frightens me to consider how their employees are treated


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