For Those who've moved on to better stuff without paying
 

This might pi*s off a few pruners, but so what!

I'm increasingly antagonistic toward those fools that have paid for endorsements in the last few years. I'm going to blow me own horn here and let it to be known, that despite the odd offer or 2 in the last few years, I've always made it clear that I was'nt goin to fork out!! I am now in a position of which I am proud and all training was paid for including a decent wage.
To all those that have adopted the same ethics, goodonya:D

To all you v*&gin and clownstar monkeys, shame on you all:=

Hear hear !!!!!.

"I've always made it clear that I was'nt goin to fork out!!"

.... but have you paid for endorsements, Fiona?

Dont suppose your flash new company paid you a training wage whilst they endorsed and line trained you?

If they did YOU paid for the endorsement..

QF pay for the endorsement BUT pay a training wage

DJ pay for the endorsement but get paid full tote odds from day 1

At the end of 2 years it is pretty much a muchness.

From your name it sounds like you are female and therefore were likely to have been given preference over male applicants for the job. So get down off your high horse. In Australia if you are a straight white male you are at the back of the queue.

Some people who get jobs know someone in the company, some pay for the endorsement and some are members of minority groups such as women or ethnics.

You may well have been employed over better applicants in order to "make up the numbers", remember that. :E

........ Ah no, sorry. That's "put out" not "fork out", isn't it!

Don't worry Metro Man, there are plenty of straight white males looking out for straight white males.

I am an ethnic, lesbian with a slight disability and it hasn't helped me none.:ooh:

Think you mean straight white Smoking male from Tasmania

How is paying for an endorsement any different to paying for an instrument rating? Or CPL?

Yes, QF pay for the endorsement and pay you $33K per annum whilst you're doing the training. Once you check to line you go on year one pay as a S/O. Depending on the aircraft type this is 3-15% less than what you earn as a 2 year S/O.

Somehow I think you're WAY in front of:

This has to be written by a bloke looking for a wind-up, given the way it is written, and the 'tone' of it.

If it was written by a "fiona", holy sh!t she must be butch!! (or very, very "playne")

And very obvious sour grapes with VB and J*.

this person is highly likely NOT female.

the name was derived from a nice girl who I knew, who had an unfortunate accident in an aeroplane.... I'll let you guess her name.

this person should be deleted from pprune

Maybe you just couldn't cut the mustard so wanted to make sure you were employed for greater security.

Its ok... no really

2p2d,

My pseudonym is in no way derived from anyone unfortunate enough to have been involved in an aircraft accident.
In the same vane, I'm sure the meteorologist who created 'Hurricane Katrina' did not in any way mean for her/his naming to be related to any victim of this storm, who might have been called katrina.
Why we are at it, I happen to find your pseudo a little on the offensive side having been the victim of someone who was too pis*$ed to walk, let alone drive!!

MetroM

You appear from your writings to be presumptious and narrow minded. That is why you may have found yourself at the back of the queue on some occasions.

To the rest of you,

I've never paid for an endorsement and never will. I do not have a problem with a training wage and no matter which way you look at it, it is still an income. DJ and the other lot do not pay you a salary until at least completion of endorsement. Paying for CPL/IR's etc are your basic qualifications. Like most other professions, we fork out for this. These are licences and ratings NOT endorsements.

To those of you that have paid your way into 737/320 positions you are a part of the demise of this once great industry, especially those mainliners that went over!

No sour grapes because I've never considered a career with either of them.

PKF, you're absolutely positive you've never paid for an endorsement?

How about a multi engine aircraft ENDORSEMENT? Or a SE aircraft <5700kg ENDORSEMENT? Retractable ENDORSEMENT? CSU ENDORSEMENT? ;)

It just depends on where you draw the line. Lots of employers only accept applications from pilots that already have the endorsement and/or experience on a particular aircraft type. Those that do provide endorsements usually pay peanuts during the process, or bond you for years (even Qantas).

Curious to see the responses are not at all interested in the idea that maybe it's bloody good to get a job without having to fork out cash.

Nit picking apart the poster for the sake of trying to make them look bad is plain dumb.

Here's to the day that everyone sees the light.

What you mean Fiona is that you have been unable to get a gig until the industry has started taking anyone with a licence and a heartbeat.

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High horses
 

PKF, so you've NEVER paid for ANY endorsements, etc.

Well GOOD FOR YOU! :rolleyes:

And now you feel the urge get up on your soapbox and lecture the rest of us on how good you are because of this, and that anyone who's paid for anything

Well done on starting YET ANOTHER pointless, useless thread on D&G.

This has been done to death in the past, and like most of these threads will probably be shut down once people start on personal attacks in their posts. :ugh:

Oh wait, That's already started :yuk:

Wow. It's happened. Finally, a post on the Proooon that has really, really PISSED ME OFF.

If you are a chick, then it's chicks like you that give the rest of us the [deserved in this case] lashings and comments and derogatory inferences, such as:

If you're a boy, shame on you and I hope your willy falls off. :=

Anyone getting the picture as to why i might be f**ked off? Heaven forbid there might actually be some girls out there who can fly the ass off their male counterparts. It would appear from this post, however, that maybe there just ISN'T...