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vh_ajm 26th Jun 2007 05:07

Wind socks
 
Hi all,

I was asked the other day what a fully erect windsock indicated. I suddenly realised that I had forgotten. And when I then tried to look it up (VFR flight guide, CAAP, CAR, CAO, AIP) I could not find any references. My seniors seemed to have forgotten as well.

Was I not looking in the correct place in these docs. or is it stipulated somewhere sneeky like MOS manuals? Or else not regulated (I consider this unlikely)?

Any help appreciated.

ScottyDoo 26th Jun 2007 05:10

Dunno about the erect one but a fully limp windsock probably means da bruddahs have bin out there putting rocks in the windsock again...

squawk6969 26th Jun 2007 05:15


what a fully erect windsock indicated
You have to be brave asking that around here:}:}:}

It means its windy of course!

I think it can vary from sock to sock, but I would say about 15kots is what gives a fully inflated sock its stature, ahhh erection:ooh:.

So there is a guide, and when its defective who knows!:uhoh:

SQ

ScottyDoo 26th Jun 2007 05:37

Someone once told me if it's one of those striped socks, each orange or white segment indicates 5 kts. Could be a fable or outright BS though...

Seem to recall reading that a windsock indicates 15kt when fully aroused.

VH-ABC 26th Jun 2007 05:38

From memory, a standard wind direction indicator for a registered aerodrome indicated 25 kts when horizontal. Had a quick search around and couldnt find a reference, sorry.

Diatryma 26th Jun 2007 06:14

Wouldn't it depend on wetness?

It would be harder to get it up when it's wet wouldn't it?

And the position would be important too!

LOL

Di :E

Fhead 26th Jun 2007 06:20

Haven't looked but I think it used to be in AD.

Isn't it yellow wind sock full erect 15 knots, white wind sock full erect 30 knots

maybe if you looked up to buy one it would tell you i'll check sporties

ForkTailedDrKiller 26th Jun 2007 06:31

"I was asked the other day what a fully erect windsock indicated"
 
Its really really happy to see you ?

vh_ajm 26th Jun 2007 06:32

Yes, yes, yes. The temperature would have a big effect as well (or a small effect depending on how you look at it). And whether there were other windsocks around....

I was looking for some sensible answers too though. Thanks to the one of you who offered both.

ForkTailedDrKiller 26th Jun 2007 06:33

"I was asked the other day what a fully erect windsock indicated"
 
If its an older looking windsock .....

Its been popping little blue pills ?

vh_ajm 26th Jun 2007 06:35

Oops... two of you now. Cheers.

Peter Fanelli 26th Jun 2007 07:43

Does a 30kt windsock become 15 kt windsock after it's been swimming, or is it the other way around?

QNH1013.2 26th Jun 2007 08:02

I think FHead is correct, or close enough.

"Isn't it yellow wind sock full erect 15 knots, white wind sock full erect 30 knots"

- But be wary that not all wind-socks conform to this standard, particularly for an un-licenced field. Some fields tend to use non-standard socks as advertising these days.

BrazDriver 26th Jun 2007 08:25

Windsock Gone = Cyclone

scrambler 26th Jun 2007 08:53

I thought that a White wind sock was the primary wind indicator and the yellow ones were supposed to be used as secondary ones. The only difference is the colour

After checking up the ref for this is AIP AD 5.3

youngmic 26th Jun 2007 09:08

White = primary Yellow = secondary

Back in the olden days (80's) they used to state in the VFG or ERSA that a horizontal sock indicated 30kts.

However by the late 80's changes appeared with the ERSA (I think) stating 20 or 25kts for an all out on some socks. So it appeared you could have 2 different rated socks around the country. At about the same time the govt. documents stopped stating the rating of the various socks.

This became known as the era of CYA (cover your arse) so after allowing a non standardised system to evolve the regulator went silent on the subject.

M

Aerodynamisist 26th Jun 2007 09:29

I didn't find anything on wind sock speeds from a search through Australian publications.
I did find that the MOS specification in Australia is for a 3.75 meter white wind sock which matches the FAA Size 2 - Twelve feet (3.75 m) in length and 36 inches (0.9 m) in throat diameter.
according to the "FAA SPECIFICATION FOR WIND CONE ASSEMBLIES"
4.2.6 Windsock Extension. Test the windsock to assure that it extends fully when subjected to a wind of 15 (+2,-1) knots (+3.7, -1.8) km/hr or (+2.3, -1.2 mph).

http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraff...0_5345_27d.pdf

I also found out that ir's prohibited to export wind indicators to Libia. I couldn't find any phalic references though - some good ones allready posted.

Launchpad McQuack 26th Jun 2007 10:17

I was taught that a fully erect (err...horizontal?) wind-sock is 25kts...I don't have any references however....guess it might depend on a whole number of variables?

It's llegal to export wind-socks to Libya?? wtf?! :confused:

Muffinman 26th Jun 2007 23:16

Now I know where to go to find some yellow or white condoms...........:E

compressor stall 27th Jun 2007 00:54

There are some drawbacks to the Australianism of the primary windsock being white...particularly where I work. :}


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