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I spy 23rd Feb 2007 06:40

Plane down near Clyde in Victoria
 
Channel 7 just reported a plane has gone down near Clyde, with 2 POB.
Well inside YMMB's training area - hope all is well and that all are OK.
Anyone know any more details?

Greenmonkey 23rd Feb 2007 06:53

News.com.au Report at least one killed
"AT least one person has been killed in a light plane crash in Melbourne's southeast.
The plane crash-landed into a paddock shortly before 5.40pm (AEDT) today near Pattersons Road, Clyde North, a Country Fire Authority spokeswoman said.
The plane caught fire after it crashed and it was believed at least one person died, the spokeswoman said."
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599...5-1702,00.html "

scrambler 23rd Feb 2007 07:22

Two people have died in a light plane crash south-east of Melbourne.

The plane came down in McCormacks Road at Clyde North just before 6pm AEDT.

It is unclear whether or not there were any other people on board.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...2/s1855768.htm

flog 23rd Feb 2007 09:42

2 POB, both fatalities.

YesTAM 23rd Feb 2007 20:17

What aircraft please, and was it from YMMB?

Condolences to all affected.

I spy 23rd Feb 2007 21:37

More details here. Yes, it had departed YMMB.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...2/s1855945.htm

flightfocus 24th Feb 2007 00:26

Is Clyde near the aeros box in the YMMB training area?

What a sad day - thoughts with the friends & family :( :(

I spy 24th Feb 2007 02:42

Either just inside or just adjacent to the S/W corner of aeros box

StickWithTheTruth 24th Feb 2007 06:37

Had a look at the site earlier today.

Appears to be an RV4 of Hamilton origin, but for some reason was being re-assembled at Moorabbin some two weeks ago in a hangar. I have no idea why.

6.7 miles on the 337 GPS radial out of Tooradin, so at the lower end of the Moorabbin aero's box.

Witnesses suggest a spiral dive as per the newspaper reports with components falling off. Looks like the elevator is on the ground near the line of trees near the SES truck. No matter what it is, pieces falling off your aircraft would have been terrifying to say the least.

http://users.netconnect.com.au/~njah1/rv3.jpg

chimbu warrior 24th Feb 2007 09:14

I don't know why Mr Gibson comments on this; it is the role of the ATSB to investigate accidents, not CASA. Any suggestion regarding the cause would be pure speculation.

Lets leave the investigation, and reporting, to those best qualified.

Trash Hauler 24th Feb 2007 09:49

Pretty sure most of the press think CASA investigates aircraft s so I would not be surprised if the press contacted CASA aca Mr Gibson.

VH-XXX 24th Feb 2007 12:17

Most of what he commented on was incorrect anyway with regard to experimental... Engineers checking the aircraft, routine inspections, flight over built-up areas... mostly incorrect.

Photo looks pretty nasty. I have a theory on the skidmarks, but it is in no way a good one and not one I like to think too much about. RIP.

Buster Hyman 25th Feb 2007 05:37

:( ****. I just found out who the owner was & he was a friend of mine...tragic end to a hard life.:(

Crosshair 25th Feb 2007 18:56

Remove the photo
 
Thank you for changing the photo to one with a wider view. The new one is much more informative.

StickWithTheTruth 26th Feb 2007 04:37

Are you for real?

It was an RV4. A 2 seater tandem seat aircraft. They would have hardly put their camping gear in the back and gone out doing aero's! Hmmm... and this C of G problem caused an unrecoverable spiral dive? Or was it somehow loaded forward?????

I don't think your post is appropriate and you probably should remove it until something is released officially.

Stick with the truth because the truth shall set you free.

Veritas Leberabit Vos.

Andy_RR 26th Feb 2007 05:01

...but it could have been overweight.

Using Dan Checkoway's web-based W+B info (http://www.rvproject.com/wab/wab.jsp) it shows that with a couple of hours of fuel and reserves (say 22 USG), you can only fit two 116lb people aboard, before exceeding what he states is the aerobatic weight limit.

CoG seems OK, though.

FWIW.

A

gezza182 26th Feb 2007 05:04

Why should YesTAM remove his/her post?

He/she has heard a rumour and has posted it. This is a "rumour network" after all.

Surely the rumour can stand (as a rumour) until someone else can either confirm, or refute it.

What's the point of a "rumour network" if you can't post rumours?

404 Titan 26th Feb 2007 05:30

gezza182

The point is he posted an accusation on hear the defendant who is now dead can’t defend. There is a difference in posting on here a rumour and posting on here something that is libellous. Some need to have a good read of the conditions of posting on Pprune. They are clear cut and anyone abusing them may find themselves banned or worse having to deal with a law suit after the owners of Pprune give up your identity because of legal action taken by a defamed party to acquire it. And don’t think it hasn’t happened. It has.

YesTAM 26th Feb 2007 20:30

I'll remove the post. Its very sad. Condolences to the families. Titan404 check PM's.

Buster Hyman 10th Mar 2007 08:12

Memorial service this Friday in Elwood.

PM me if anybody wants details.


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