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soar02 8th Nov 2006 03:55

Starting out
 
Hi all,

I've just recently got my CPL, so have relative low total time, and was wondering what any of you would recommend on doing? Im currently in the Melbourne area. Is there a certain amount of hours that I'll pretty much need to find a job?
What type of hours do different types of jobs want?(aircraft type) Is it worth getting endorsed on a particular type of aircraft for experience? If so, what aircraft type?
I will end up doing a ME IFR but probably not for a year or two.

Cheers

huntsman 9th Nov 2006 00:47

instead of an Instrument Rating, use the $10K as bait to attract a willing employer to give you a start. :ok:

Wanderin_dave 9th Nov 2006 01:12

Firstly congrats on the new CPL! Do a search on this, it has been covered a lot before.
But just a few quick tips:

- Be prepared to move (a looooong way), there are jobs out there (quite alot it seems), but you'll have to go get them. And if you don't, they will go to the guy/girl who does.
- Have some experience in other areas (bar work, hospitality stuff) so you can support yourself for the first few weeks maybe couple of months you're in a new place.
- If you are going to buy some sime i would suggest big Cessna time (206 or 210) about 10 hours. Will help alot, but will be the wrong side of $3000
- Keep an eye on the afap website, i just had a quick look and saw a couple of jobs advertised that would take new CPLs.
- If you've got the right attitude and are willing to go get the job you'll get one. There's plenty out there to be had.
-Pull out a map and look at all the touristy places around as you're likley to start out doing scenic stuff. Then jump on the web and find the operators in the area. Send them a resume and follow it up with a call after a week or so. Most will be happy to talk and even hand over a fair bit of advice.
Good luck!
Also checkout the Kunnunara (sp?) 2007 thread that's going at the moment.

soar02 10th Nov 2006 06:44

Hey thanks for the advice guys. :ok: With regard to buying time in a big cessna, would it be prefferable to get some more twin time? I already have about 25hrs. Or is the big single more suitable?

Thanks

ding duck 10th Nov 2006 07:03

congratulations soar02
 
congratulations soar02!

welcome to the club.
firstly, check out your PM's, secondly check out Kununurra 07 thread and thirdly have a look at http://users.tpg.com.au/adslsttq/website/index.html

Great website about the trials and tribulations of life up north done by our good mate BOK
hope this helps.

BOK_ 10th Nov 2006 08:45

Hey DingDuck - mate I gotta call ya sometime soon....must be hot up there now approaching the wet.

Still got enough cartons to last out the season!?

BOK

:ok:

maxgrad 11th Nov 2006 09:05

Spend the money firstly on about 10 hrs C210 time then if any change get some B58/55 or C310 endos and time.
Start driving, maintain your attitude and go for it, There is work but you need to be on the spot.
Congrats and welcome to the lunatic assylum.
(spelling....we don't need no stinking spelling:E )

ding duck 11th Nov 2006 09:40

kununurra in the wet
 
hot as hell. If we aren't in hell we are damn close to it. hope syd is going alright, almost time for me to migrate south for the summer.

soar02, don't worry too much about twin time because your chances of touching one in the next 2-3 years are pretty slim. get time on 210 or 206. do your research and decide where you are going to go and who you are going to speak to. also look at fleet and what the operator does. understand the operator as best as possible and don't be afraid to ask questions.
ding

ContactMeNow 11th Nov 2006 10:46

Spend a few dollars on some C206 and C210 time (you dont need too much) and then with the change get yourself a car (if you dont have one) and then apck it up with everything you have a move to the areas that have jobs.....

Fuel is expensive these days, so from melbourne you will be looking at spending around $500 to get up there.

Best of luck mate, there is light at the end of the tunnel if you work at it!

CMN :ok:

soar02 11th Nov 2006 12:23

Thanks for all the info, does anyone know of any places close to the melbourne area that have a C206 or C210 for hire or an endo? What is a typical rate to expect?
Thanks

Whizzwheel 11th Nov 2006 19:53

How good to see such a positive attitude - BOK, I have no doubt that you're going to go a long way; the ability to make the most of any situation is priceless, and something that I, as a manager, actively seek out in employees... SOAR, take a bit of this guy's attitude, and it won't matter where you end up. I've done a couple of years in the NT, and will talk about the experiences forever. It's the land of opportunity my friend - keep your eye on the big picture, but enjoy the journey. Here endeth the rant.:ok:

BOK_ 12th Nov 2006 00:54

Hehe - thanks WizzWheel - your right, you gotta enjoy the journey and not be in a bustagut rush to get to the big boys. Its still important to have the goal in mind though if you want to go down that road, but whilst your starting out - enjoy the ups and live through the downs.....it happens in all places of work and in all industries.

:ok:


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