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eye_in_the_sky 25th Aug 2006 01:16

King Air C90 nosegear collapse at Moorabbin YMMB
 
Just saw on ch9 footage of what appeared to be a C90 landing @ MB and the nosewheel collapsing on the rollout... very bent props and lots of smoke from the LH engine cowl.
Anyone know any further?

heywatchthis 25th Aug 2006 02:05

Wasn't VH-JET was it?

Soulman 25th Aug 2006 02:08

VH-LYG.

to make up the 10 characters you need to post

WarmNuts 25th Aug 2006 02:39

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/img/natio...08_plane_9.jpg

montyjames 25th Aug 2006 04:16

real shame to see aircraft like this, especially when I took a photo of it not so long ago....and it looked great!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...yjames/LYG.jpg

megle2 25th Aug 2006 09:11

Full flap selected.
Doesn't that mean problems.
Premonition maybe!

Woomera 25th Aug 2006 09:48

Footage on Sky News. Well done that lad! :ok:

From the smoke, the left engine damage could be terminal....

willadvise 25th Aug 2006 11:43

ABC News Radio was refering to it as a "Beechworth" aircraft:ugh:

podbreak 25th Aug 2006 13:49

yah, was mr bradd lacy who put it down, doing ICUS training for one of the CAL cadets at GFS in YMMB. Hes a top bloke, and a bloody good instructor. He deserves all the credit he gets for a safe landing, well executed emergency. Congrats bradd, from an old student.

Hempy 25th Aug 2006 14:57

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k144/h3mpy/lyg1.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k144/h3mpy/lyg2.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k144/h3mpy/lyg3.jpg

rogerexplosion 26th Aug 2006 01:12

Brings tears to the eyes :{

jetbrett 26th Aug 2006 03:01

Doesnt look too pretty does it, you should have heard it!!!!!!

getmeoutovga 26th Aug 2006 03:21


Originally Posted by podbreak
yah, was mr bradd lacy who put it down, doing ICUS training for one of the CAL cadets at GFS in YMMB. Hes a top bloke, and a bloody good instructor. He deserves all the credit he gets for a safe landing, well executed emergency. Congrats bradd, from an old student.

Everyone keeps goin on about what a good job he did etc...ahh can someone tell me how you could do a bad job???? Wouldnt have to be exactly a master aviator to be able to land on the mains and hold off the nose for as long as possible???:hmm:

jetstar1 26th Aug 2006 05:07

Mate, he walked away didn't he? Maybe if you have a look at the video you might realise how much worse he could have done?
PS Video is HERE

getmeoutovga 26th Aug 2006 05:19


Originally Posted by jetstar1
Mate, he walked away didn't he? Maybe if you have a look at the video you might realise how much worse he could have done?
PS Video is HERE

He walked away...and?? Seen many an aircraft land with landing gear failures and cant recal ONE single one where anyone has been injured as a result :suspect:

I just cant see what 'skill' or 'excellence' he has displayed? If anything the safe landing would be more attributable to luck-as in situations like that all you can basically do is hold it off as much as possible-cant see what superior technique that was used that allowed them to walk away?

So what would be the alternative? What technique would you use that would not result in a safe landing?? :confused:

Led Zep 26th Aug 2006 05:54


Originally Posted by willadvise
ABC News Radio was refering to it as a "Beechworth" aircraft:ugh:

At least it wasn't a "Cessna". :}

Night Hawk 26th Aug 2006 21:31

Hmmmm….. The smoke pouring out of the left engine (only shown on a few networks) would suggest the condition levers were forgotten about. :eek: Anybody else able to give another reason why the slow build up of smoke from light blue through to thick white plumes? :confused:

Capt Fathom 27th Aug 2006 00:57

Night Hawk .. the props copped a bit of a hiding, no doubt causing some distress to oil seals in the props and front (should that be the back) of the engine. Oil hitting a hot surface generally causes white smoke.:(

Night Hawk 27th Aug 2006 01:25

Capt F, didn't think the damage looked that bad from photo's shown above. :confused: The plumes seemed to be forced out and not just filtering up.The engine running down maybe(Free turbine)??

Continental-520 27th Aug 2006 13:22

A few things
 
It was a job well done, I thought.


So what would be the alternative? What technique would you use that would not result in a safe landing??
Well, he could've chosen to land on grass or an area other than the runway, like some do. That increases the probability of the props digging in (soft surface) and the aircraft coming to an abrupt halt, possibly ground looping or even flipping if the speed is a bit high. This can cause the occupants of the aircraft some rather nasty injuries, possibly fatal, though only likely when all 3 are stuck up.

Those who have faced this type of ordeal may be able to shed some more light on it, perhaps?


520.


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