Have Cessna, NT Government and the Bagot Road Community announced when the Bagot Road facility will be fully on line to cope with the 500 airframes ordered by Tiger for there regional airline programme?

I dont know whoever told you a 209 was a stretched 207. That's absolute rubbish. The 208 is the caravan which is a turbine. The design was to provide a training a.c suitable for transformation from piston to jet, without the need to fly a turbo prop.

They are specifically used in training Indian pilots stepping into jets. You wont find one for private hire in Australia. Australian operators like Jetstar dont require jet time to fly an A320, like other countries

All these previous people are talking crap. I doubt they have ever seen a 209 in real life.

If you need to be prepared for flying there is a manual for sale on ebay

Cessna Model 209 JET SKYWAGON Owner's Manual | eBay



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Infact so good is the 209 that Gippsland are actually trying to compete, the product looks far less superior but maybe close.

The many hours flown in the 209 are memorable, the takeoff performace as we all know was just outstanding, full load plus a bit for the boss, plus a bit for some extra bucks, 45 deg at the Rock, easy off she went...

Now will the GA10 be as good?

http://www.gippsaero.com/articles/fi...2March2011.pdf

:D

Is it true that the new 209 glass cockpit comes standard with Microsoft flight sim ? :rolleyes:

Only in the right hand seat so the FO can rack up a few more sim hours

Cesna President of Pacific Operations, Chuck Meyer III has advised that NASA have almost completed stress testing of the first airframe and they are amazed at the strength and integrity of the recycled blue and green aluminium cans, used at the Bagot Rd facility.

Considering how aviation is moving I thought bringing the C209 thread back to life would be perfect timing.

I haven’t tried the Garmin singing suite as yet, is it as good as reported?

The 209 I saw didn’t have the 236 rear engine upgrade, it had these amazing looking engines albeit very small attached to the top of the wing at the strut attachment point. I noticed the entire upper wing to be covered in black which I assume is some kind of solar panel?

Over 9 years since this topic was active proving how good the 209 continues as a work horse
I’ll bet there are a few airline types surprised to be back in the 209 left seat during these tough times.
Be interesting to hear how they are settling back in.

And with no 'Cabin Staff' to do the pre-flight emergency demo, it would be 'interesting' to see how they 'restore law and order' to the pax, prior to T/O.....
Its like sumpting they haven't had to do for a while.....
Hey Bro??

p.s. I use the 'red & green can' method meself......(Hint for new Captains).

Ive seen the conversions for this into a taildragger, quite a versatile aeroplane!

A lot of the heavy iron guys are failing the Fright Safety Course on the Cessna C209NG, apparently to much time on the glass cockpit, lack of handling skills, no analogue experience, no mechanical sympathy and no autopilot.

One of the local CP pilots reckons, the QF, Jetstar, Virgin and Tiger pilots need to give themselves and advantage and do the GA Job Ready Awareness Course available through a VET program($25,000 plus gst). not to mention the Certificate IV in aircraft washing, Certificate IX in unapproved GA aircraft maintenance, Certificate XXII in GA CRM course and Certifiacte XIX in Maintance Release Doctoring.

Barry another NT CP, who did not want to be named, said were reluctant to put airline guys in the C209, as they weren't prepared to pay a bond and would shoot through when the airlines started recruiting again down south.

I've heard that CASA is considering revoking the ASETPA approval for the 209NG, as a consequence of the risks arising from some of the issues touched on by Stationair8. That would be a 'body-blow' for the viability of the type in commercial operations in Australia.

Leady nah they dodged a bullet and kept ASETPA with an ULC approval addition (8 hours from land).

I was sent a copy of the GA 209 readiness awareness course and must say I was impressed with how it’s been adapted and updated.

Interestingly though I see that under Part 61/141/28.45323(z) that no type specific rating/variance training is actually required. I’d suggest to any newbies to just try and grab a couple of niner hours. These aircraft are no doubt going to dominate.

Global Aviator, the C209NG is not a dinky toy GA plane this a proper type rating and needs to be flown by the numbers. It is not a quick two circuit check ride with some four stripe instructor, at your local flying school.

A copy of the training schedule, for week 1.

Day 1
1. Racism in the work place,
2. Diversity in the work place.
3. Discussion on transgender work place ethics
4. Sexual harassment and your rights.

Day 2
1. Overview on workplace diversity,
2. Discussion and focus group on reducing greenhouse gasses,
3. Overview on aboriginal heritage in General Aviation in Australia,
4. Human Resources and there role in the organisation.

Day 3
1. Introduction to gender diversity in the cockpit,
2. Focus group on empowering disabled pilots,
3. Rainbow day.

Day 4
1. Introduction to the C209NG,
2. Overview on pilot aircraft cleaning,
3. Introduction to high speed aerodynamics,
4. Pneumatic flap system and how it works.

Day 5
1. Introduction to fabric control surfaces,
2. Introduction to Cessna avionics and why they fail.


Rumour has it that Qantas will be singing an order for 100 airframes to compete with REX.

Interesting claim is that it is guaranteed to be impossible to stall!

............. Oh, but that is probably because it is guaranteed not to ever get airborne

That Qantas rumour getting involved was quickly squashed as the intended 380 pilots wanted their pay adjusted up and in any case Alliance just knew it wouldn’t work for them.

The aircraft will be purchased outright by Alliance, crewed by displaced Qantas/Virgin flight crews subject to People and Culture interview and allowing for gender equity, the aircraft will be painted in Air Queensland, Air NSW, Air Tasmania and MMA colours.

Priceless. 🤣🤣🤣

Just saw GT flying the C209NG simulator on Sunrise. Interesting to see the ballistic chute procedure and realism of the simulator.

GT described it as the Tesla of the sky, a game changer for the aviation industry and this is why Cessna has ceased production of the Citation 680.

Cessna finance will be offering a payment package through Afterpay.

Barry another NT CP, said the problem will be that the young guys will still be p#ssing off and, chasing the coveted multi time for the airline gig. You will spend a year training some young pilot up on our VET approved C209 ICUS($$$$$$) programme, then they shoot through and fly some 50 year GA twin for peanuts.

Word on Mitchell St, is that Hardy Aviation have paid deposits for 10 airframes in 2021, and another 20 in 2022.
Worth checking for an announcement on the Darwin Stock Exchange.

Kakadu Bob has also signed for 5 airframes for 2022, subject to simulator availability at the Bagot Road Fright Safety Centre.

Did GT mention that CASA have approved the 5,000 page Pilot Operating Handbook?

Nigel, an ex British airways 747 captain has come down under to setup the crewing software for a local GA operator who recently started to upgrade their fleet to the C209NG.

It’s a game changer he was quoted as saying. When asked what his thoughts on flying it were, his comments where, it’s like being asked to lay with the queen. It’s a great honour - but no one wants to do it.

I'm surprised the Betoota Advocate and NT News aren't covering these developments.

If you have a picture of a Croc in the C209, it'll get front page of the NT News ;-)

The live animal transport STC application is still with CASA. The NG has greater capabilities than the ‘straight’ C209, which is why Cessna has persisted with the application.

Do you think it will assist with live export transport that much? I read you could get 2 million tadpoles loaded???

Obviously Nigel from BA wowed HR with his Eaton private school education and his 747 stories!

Nigel will look good in his pith helmet, long sox and sandals stomping around the tarmac telling the young pilots this is the way we did at British Airways!

Global, the Live Animal STC applied for is stuck in the casa “too hard basket” until they can determine a satisfactory training / checking pathway for approval of a tadpole counting method. I would of thought weight would be more practical. Gross weight that is not the individual tadpole weight as that as you are aware can vary with age ie tadpole hogget

Is this another case of one CASA office saying something different to the next one? My FOI told me that it was a certainty for the taddy uplift, i’m banking my career on this! Don’t think I can’t handle another kick in the nutz. I was told my investment was as good as a job.

Plus nigels freemasonry and secret handshake got him over the line.

His extensive charity work with the lions club was the dead give away.

It’s also a nice perk for the owner of the 209 operation to use his tax haven holiday retreat in Andorra when things pick up.

We need more Nigels in our lives.

On long single-pilot freight ops, the tadpoles are often off-loaded.

Having read a few threads on newbies heading North I thought it prunedent to bring this thread alive again.

I’ve heard rumours that the GA ready course is going to focus on the 209NG with the Garmin 9870 avionics.

Did the STC for the Diesel engine ever get approved?

It failed to get ‘traction’. :E

Ironically, the competition got the diesel STC: The GA-8D Airvan. Would be worth anyone ‘heading north’ to get an endorsement on the GA-8D.

Heavy iron operators down south always appreciate, the guys that have gone North and got that heavy single time.

Cessna are sticking with the avgas only variant of the ever popular C209 for Australian, too many delays for regulatory approval by CASA for the C209NG.

Get that C209 time in the logbook, along with one of those new fangled Multi Crew Co-ordination course’s on your licence and the world is your oyster.

Bonza have 50 options on the C209’s for regional feeder work in Queensland and South Australia.

Stationair8
Yes/no/maybe.
The NT Government are in negotiations with CASA and Cessna to approve the C209NG for IFR day and night aeromedical for NTG contractors only. This apparently will be a work-around while waiting for the, PT6 powered, C209NGtp to come on line.

Interesting times ahead that’s for sure.

Prime Minister Albo is holding top secret talks with the French PM.

The French want to build the C209 in Reims, as payback for the failed submarine deal. They are proposing a nuclear powered C209 this decade.

Albo is hoping to keep the project in Australia and wants the Bagot Rd facility to be an example of a modern trade union project.

I’ve just heard from the Townsville refueller that the mighty C209 will be flying cargo to the new space base.

Which company picked up the contract?

Have heard a 2028 isbao part 918 induction certification process for new hires, also heard of huge sign on bonuses, especially if one has logged NT wet season time in column 12 of a CAA approved log book anytime in the past 50 years.

Game changing?

Which model 209 did they go with? So many questions!

From the Townsville refueller's wife - in the shower this morning, the preferred model is the new 'NGTD' model.

That's the New Gen Turbo Diesel made by Toiyota, its a 'Special' 8 Litre Diesel built especially for the 'Wet' in the NT.
350 HP and around 10.3 L / 100 nm so they say.....
Solar panels on the wings optional extra, for 'extra boost to the magnetos'. Made to shape of course.

Spare parts are said to be available from 'Micks Toiyota Auto Parts', Bagot Rd., much cheaper than from the 'usual' FAA / CAA / CASA approved outlets.

Albo has asked King Charles to visit Australia, and open the Bagot Road C209 Centre of Excellence later this year.