CAVOK
 

Hey follow pilots,

Was wondering what you though of the old saying CAVOK? I believe that is put dated and should be changes, for example you are flying from ymmb-yltv and the forecast for yltv is CAVOK you up at your cruising level of 6500ft and the cloud is broken at 6000ft above the field so the term CAVOK means nothing to you because you are above it!!!.

I reckon they should employ a new system, Keep the old CAVOK (cloud clear below 5000ft viz greater then 10k's) but also have maybe CAVCAVOK which means cloud clear below 10000ft and viz greater then 10k's!!!

What you reckon?
cheers

CAVOK
 

Like you said, CAVOK relates to aerodrome. :hmm:

Ok , what ever you think is best.

CAVOK
 

Yes it relates to the aerodrome but it only covers cloud up to 5000ft which i think is pointless it should cover it up to 10000ft hence CAVCAVOK like i said in the example you are crusing above 5000ft then cavok means nothing!!!!

I knew I shouldn't have opened this post. Another 2 minutes of my life I won't get back.

CAVOK means... Cieling And Visibility OK... so if we said CAVCAVOK, that would be stuttering, wouldn't it.......

yeah, and while we're at it. ket's change the laws of physics and suggest that the Lift formula is outdated, and we should put something nice and warm and fuzzy in it........ for goodness sake guys, get a life

My cat's breath smells like poo.

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So if both MB and LTV are CAVCOCK but there is cloud at 5100 all the way enroute how are you going to navigate and keep it legal? If you're IFR then what does a bit of cloud above 5000 matter anyway and finally, if you are CAVCOCKED and cruising at 6500 you would want to be starting your descent well beyond the CAVOK range of 5nm(?) so knowing about CAVCOCK is of what benfit again?

UTR

JUST GET AN AREA FORECASTE

buzzy, that ain't your cat's mouth you are sniffing...i can loan you some velcro gloves and masking tape if you want :}
happy easter

As others have said, a TAF is for the aerodrome, 5nm and up to 5000'. It has absolutely nothing to do with enroute weather, nor is it relevant to making an approach at an aerodrome to be having cloud more than 5000' AGL. If you're buzzing around VFR and get stuck on top at more than 5000', then you should have read the AREA forecast better!

The meaning is in the acronym. Ceiling & Vis near the aerodrome is OK. Not briliant. Not perfect. Certainly not wonderful. Merely 'OK' within 5km of the airstrip.

NB: In some parts of the world there was also CAVU: Ceiling &Vis Unlimited.

Tell me when the forcast for the area is correct? dubya u get a life i never said get rid of cavok just update it!!! what r u a captain of a cessna 150 :)

There is no such thing as a stupid question........ Just stupid people.

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about as often as the TAF... :hmm:

Buzzy bro I've stuck pigs with more brains than you ow. Why dont you just p:mad: ss off and go milk your cat and leave the keyboard alone.

Sure thing bro. Hey bro, can I birrow ya vilcro glives?

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Mr Buzzy,

Your cat comment had me in stitches mate. :ok:

I don't want to ask why you are smelling your cats breath....

My dog eats dog food, not poo....?? :eek:

Err...Bruce,

Get back to us when you've prepared the document you wish CASA to put to ICAO to forward your plan.

Oh, and don't forget that it takes about 5 years to get anything through ICAO.

Good luck!:uhoh:

G'day ;)

Well, if you want to take CAVOK up to A100, why not A200? You can be VFR up there. :} :\

I personally don't think there is a need for TAF's to cover the weather any higher than 5000 feet, that's what ARFOR's are for!!

More importantly, I want to know why you are cruising YMMB-YLTV at 6500?;)