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Scion
First, pull your head in, my user name here is gaunty who you think I may or may not be is irrelevant and banning from here usually follows attempts at "outing". Posters here are heard on the merit of their argument not on how you would have them perceived. Our free enterprize, market forces masters sold a publicly owned asset A pox on Maquarie Bank the millionaire factory, made by siren cries, to dumb pollies who get fat directorships when they retire, on how to turn public assets into money by making the public users pay. Try your NSW toll roads and public highways, which now cost several billions more to run, guess who pays, than when they were part of the Govt Main Roads. At least you have alternative roads, but guess hwo's going to hare to buy the "new" roads back to bail out the new owners.:{ I digress that is State this is Federal which is a much more difficult cat. to a monopoly. Neither do any of the local Councils have any planning influence, in fact Perth Airport owners are currently in the courts with the Local Council about a mill or two of rates owing on Federal Land. We are having the same problems with Jandakot, but we are dealing with that at State level. I haven't, but have you read or can you obtain an copy of the "sales" agreement and legislation. It might be interesting in what it might reveal to you and what does and does not constitute a what you call a "free hand". I don't profess to know the answer but it would add some facts to the discussion don't you think. You say They are not very nice people! It seems to me that by your lights, even if it is a rational case, defending the owners is tantamount to sedition even anti-GA, a hanging offence. With respect that is exactly the attitude that divides and has us where we are today. The reality is the airports and a number of other things that we agree should not be are now privatised. Nothing can be gained by railing against it and we do not have the public on our side, mostly as a result of that and Dick Smiths continuous exclamations of patent BS, looming disaster, unsafe skies and criminal ATCers. The Chamber? Are ALL the residents members, or is it just a them and us BAL bashing org or soapbox for the usual suspects and professional malcontents. We have our first breakfast meeting for the year and expect the usual large roll out and hope to see reps from the new owners there. We and I mean them and us collectively are addressing the CASA cost issues and have been succesful in sorting out the ASA airside charging grab. What affects us affects them, it's simple. It's called attitude if you didn't catch the first bit. |
As you can see Gaunty, things keep rollin along at YSBK
As I said they are not very nice people! |
Well said Scion!
I wonder if Perth would be so lovely with a change of government to NSW style political expediency and short term economic rationalism. Maybe (for now) someone over there sees the true economic worth of infrastructure. Maximum payback from every square inch of dirt is all they understand here - and that of course leads to maximised inflation of land values too - its all good for the shareholders here you know. If only they had the sense to restrict airport land to use for which it was intended, maybe these get rich quick merchants would not have had the free monopolistic hand to make whatever $$ they can, however they like. I have not been to Jandakot for a year or so but I don't recall seeing the biggest hardware store in the southern hemisphere, a massive bus depot or every state of the art Maccas, Taco Bell, KFC or whatever -or plans for a Westfield several private schools. Maybe thats what they need to get them all paying real rent and charges and hence providing real rates of return for that bit of WA desert out there. All they seem to do is build hangars and runways. How can that make a rate of return like a Maccas? Our experiemce with Runway 18/36 should make then think. The nice new shiney runway could easily be ripped up if someone non-aviation related offers enough money! |
I first learnt how to fly in 95. And now I can’t believe how much the industry has died! In particular BK. Its just so sad, morals down, its down right bad, aircraft looking tired, everyone strapped for cash, etc etc, the list goes on.
Aviation in Australia I believe should be treated as an essential service, just as Telecommunications is with Telstra and its compulsory community obligations. Australia is too large a place with too few people to expect the industry as a whole to "user Pay". Aviation is part of this country and has helped it become what it is today. What do we do to get General aviation back on track? I don’t know but it’s a complex issue. Firstly I don’t think we should be paying for the inefficiencies of CASA. Now everything to do with licensing gets sent to Canberra, even simple things like change of address forms cannot be actioned at your local office. Instead it is send to CB for actioning. Your local office is nothing more than a post box and a money collecting agency. Why do they exist at all! Security at regional airports is a joke. ASIC card for everyone to supposedly protect the RPT operators. Now seeming a Levy was applied for ANSETT why can’t the medium to large RPT operators pass on a levy to help finance the changes that are required to enhance security. (Help pay for our ASIC’s).Why should the smaller guys be disadvantaged more than the big guys! Anyway, most regional airports you can just walk on to the airfield anyway! The lists of costs and in-efficiencys goes on, CASA, Air Services, DoTARS. I believe that Aviation needs to be subsidized to a certain extend, not 100% but make the industry viable and allow the interest in aviation within the community to continue in this country. Too bigger distances and too few people! And now the final straw, the cost of our facilities, such as BK. The fact that an essential service has been privatized is just a joke. The infrastructure should remain owned by the people of Australia for the people of Australia. (I sound communist now). Long term goal, Bring CASA and ASA, back together call it the CAA. Keep the major airports owned by the federal government and have it run by an organisation called the FAC! Have district CAA offices that can answer your questions, process licences etc, its not that hard! We as an industry have probably made mistakes in the past and allowed this to occur to a certain extent. We are all good (at least some of us) at running our aircraft, but we are poor at maintaining a stance and achieving business and political goals, maybe we just love flying too much, and have our heads in the clouds. Maybe we need to show the Government a lesson; lets all decide to fly into KSA on the same day, book slot times and just clog the airport. Much of what I have said is probably just crap, but I just feel so strongly that aviation GA is going to die in Aus , and all we will be left with is the Q Empire and VB. Nothing else at all! Join me and write to your local Federal and state member, Federal transport Minister Warren Truss, and the PM. Let them know what is happening, tell them what we want. But again sorry to rave on, just don’t know what to do….. |
First, pull your head in, my user name here is gaunty who you think I may or may not be is irrelevant and banning from here usually follows attempts at "outing". Posters here are heard on the merit of their argument not on how you would have them perceived. That's a load of it. Posters here are always heard on who people percieve they are. Hence why people constantly call me a public servent or a student, or unemployed, or a QANTAS wannabe, or a manager, or not a pilot etc. etc.. the list goes on... (all because they don't like my view point.. ie.. I don't agree so you must be part of a group that I don't respect) Lets be honest here... posts on here are heard ONLY on who people perceive you to be! |
Gaunty,
What is happening in Perth? Is this similar in any respect to Bankstown? |
The fight at YSBK was lost years ago in the days when Roy Coburn used to single-handedly take on Howard Knox with the issues at YSBK for the benefit of everyone and with the support of no-one, circa '90, and now it is just too late, and sadly the residents have no-one to blame but themselves and their apathy.
No-one is sadder to see YSBK in its current state than me. |
Roy Coburn
Now there's a name I haven't heard in a REAL long time.
Not since I left Sydney Airways in 84. Anyone know whatever happened to him since then? |
Roy has unfortunatly passed away some time ago though prior to his passing he recovered some tail parts for my Comper Swift for me. As far as I know his death was due to a malignancy though I cannot be quite sure.
On another tack Gaunty championed the cause of the owners of YSBK to make a return on their investement and we have heard but little of this for a while. Howard Knox was a gentleman , certainly compared to the goings on recently at YSBK. |
not exactly sure what angel flight is, but you don't really need to know do you?
the mere fact that BAL is helping them publicly gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling all over. thanks BAL, you're the best. :D (where's ray martin when you need him - he was the master at this) |
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