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allthecoolnamesarego 16th Jun 2005 08:28

Qantas pilots to Singapore?
 
I have heard rumours that Qantas is making new pilots sign a waiver of some sort saying that they can be 'posted' to Singapore. Couldn't find a thread on this, any one know of a thread or of the rumour?

Cheers

Capt Stabbin 16th Jun 2005 08:58

There was a post a few weeks back regarding the Singapore basing for new Second Officers that QF is starting up. That might answer a few of your questions.

Tempo 16th Jun 2005 23:35

Qantas can send their pilots to any base they choose-from singapore to the South Pole if they wanted too. Just like any other aviation company.

allthecoolnamesarego 17th Jun 2005 07:00

Thanks for replying. I guess I would like to know under what conditions a 'posting' is possible. I am wanting to join the company and am unsure if you get 'posted' to Singapore, for example, what, if any financial help Qantas would provide. Would they pay for the move?, give you a housing allowance, etc?

Any ideas out there?

Thanks again.

DirectAnywhere 17th Jun 2005 10:51

The proposed conditions aren't yet available...ask again in a week or two.

piston broke again 19th Jun 2005 12:20

Apparently for future singapore based pilots, they will be looked after pretty well. Quite a few extra $ in the pocket compared to their Australian based counterpart. $50K extra was a rumour going around, not sure how much truth to that or for what position its valid for. Cost of living in Singapore is obviously a lot more but it's interesting all the same.

ROCKSTEADY 19th Jun 2005 12:41

I seeeeeriously doubt it???????????????

Meatro227 20th Jun 2005 22:31

You are kidding aren't you Piston. Why would they do that? It's bloody simple, pay them no more, tell them to get their arses up there and if they don't like it, ask the next bloke in line. As for any other allowances, well stiff biscuits if you have got a family to consider. Bloody good deal if you are 22 and single. Where shall I sign?

Capt Stabbin 21st Jun 2005 01:14

It won't be as high as 50k. More like 15-20k.

Meatro227 21st Jun 2005 01:21

Anyone know how the ATO sees this? Probably a mind field but pretty important I would have thought.

quarter hr pack 21st Jun 2005 01:23

Thats rediculous!! Why on earth would Qantas want to send their pilots to the South Pole?!

Capt Stabbin 21st Jun 2005 01:50

Re: The ATO. The reason the basing is for two years minimum is to allow the pilots to pay Singapore tax and also to get QF out of paying payroll tax in Australia.

404 Titan 21st Jun 2005 02:37

If Qantas bases pilots in Singapore the ATO would in most circumstances class them as non resident for tax purposes. There are exceptions to this though:

• The 180 day rule. If you spend more than 180 days in Australia (a turn around is classed one day and an overnight is classed two days) you could be classed a resident for tax purposes and/or
• Where your family live. If your family doesn’t follow you to Singapore but decides to reside in Australia, the ATO could rule that you are a resident for tax purposes and/or
• Where your primary residence is. If you own or rent property in Australia but can’t prove you are doing the same in Singapore then the ATO could also rule that you are a resident for tax purposes.

I would suspect the first criteria to be the most problematic for and QF pilot based in Singapore. If anyone is seriously thinking of taking this offer from QF, get some professional tax advice. DO NOT under any circumstances take the word of QF. Living in Singapore which is a very expensive place to live on less money than you could earn in Australia and then having to pay Australian tax could be financially crippling.

Transition Layer 21st Jun 2005 03:20

404,

I don't think the number of days you are quoting is much of an issue, as the SOs in SIN would almost exclusively be crewing trips from SIN up to LHR/FRA and perhaps back to BKK or HKG. The only trips back to Australia would be for cyclic sessions, EP training etc plus holidays of course.

I understand what you are saying re: taking Qantas' word, but things such as the 180 day rule and min 2yrs for taxation have already been raised by the company.

I also heard $50k but that sounds a little too good to be true, I tend to think it was just a management spin on things.

TL


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