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Wanky resumes
Has anyone recieved wanky resumes.
I have, how about the pilot who was on the debating team at Scotch College, or the one who is a friend of Joe Bloggs head of Coles Myer.
Good stories would be most welcome.
I have, how about the pilot who was on the debating team at Scotch College, or the one who is a friend of Joe Bloggs head of Coles Myer.
Good stories would be most welcome.
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I would think that if somebody had been captain of the debating team at Scotch College he would be a fool not to put it on a resume. Likewise the rugby, cricket or horseshoe throwing teams. None of these things have anything to do with the ability to fly an aircraft either, which I can only assume is your point, because I can't see another one.
Care to explain, notrouble of the blank profile?
Care to explain, notrouble of the blank profile?
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Totally agree bino's.
It actually shows that the person has accomplished something outside of flying, so what's wrong with this? I mean there's obviously some sort of limited to the amount of info that one should put down on a resume that is not aviation related, but at least list a FEW interests!!
My two cents.
It actually shows that the person has accomplished something outside of flying, so what's wrong with this? I mean there's obviously some sort of limited to the amount of info that one should put down on a resume that is not aviation related, but at least list a FEW interests!!
My two cents.
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One time I was at a diving school in Vanuatu, and some bloke faxed through fourteen pages of waffle, wanting to come over as a dive instructor. We all had a read, but none of us got past about page four. It just kept coming, and coming, and coming.
The guy was possibly qualified, experienced etc, but he'd shot himself in the foot right there.
A nice touch I've noticed when I'm going through resumes, and I've used this one myself, is to tailor the resume to suit the job you're applying for. Take a few minutes to doctor your standard resume, and personalise it for the position for which you're applying. For example resumes sent to a bush charter outfit, and a city operator may have diferent requirements, and emphasis. Obvious, really, but you'd be surprised at some of the stuff that comes through.
Also, people are busy. Keep it under fourteen pages. If you can't say what you want to say in two to three pages, then forget it.
And QNIM is right. I would always prefer to employ someone I have met face to face. A resume in many cases can be overblown, exagerated, or outright bull. A first impression is often a better way to get to the bottom of someones personality.
Best of luck to anyone looking for a job in these tough times. I'll be at the back of the queue myself at some stage soon...
The guy was possibly qualified, experienced etc, but he'd shot himself in the foot right there.
A nice touch I've noticed when I'm going through resumes, and I've used this one myself, is to tailor the resume to suit the job you're applying for. Take a few minutes to doctor your standard resume, and personalise it for the position for which you're applying. For example resumes sent to a bush charter outfit, and a city operator may have diferent requirements, and emphasis. Obvious, really, but you'd be surprised at some of the stuff that comes through.
Also, people are busy. Keep it under fourteen pages. If you can't say what you want to say in two to three pages, then forget it.
And QNIM is right. I would always prefer to employ someone I have met face to face. A resume in many cases can be overblown, exagerated, or outright bull. A first impression is often a better way to get to the bottom of someones personality.
Best of luck to anyone looking for a job in these tough times. I'll be at the back of the queue myself at some stage soon...
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Like Louie wrote....
2 pages max.
Save the detailed version (and your stationery costs) for the interview. If the potential employer wants more information beforehand, he/she'll ask for it.
Save the detailed version (and your stationery costs) for the interview. If the potential employer wants more information beforehand, he/she'll ask for it.
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Someone who sends me a resume telling me they went to Scotch College in Melbourne assumes that I should be impressed because of the prestige associated with that school.
Well I'm not.
Well I'm not.
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Are all aware of the difference between a Resume and a CV?I read quite a few as part of my job, and have written 'a couple' as well.
A Resume is a max of two pages, with info directly relevant to the advertised or aspired position and personal details. A CV (Curiculum Vitae) is the whole works, and is usually reserved for positions requesting it or as an accompaniment to an interview, for the panel to browse through.
My Resume is one page, and my CV is 30 pages. I would never send a CV unless specifically requested.
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Notrouble, just because you went to the local high school full of half-wits, just because you have achieved nothing when at school doesn't give you any rights to pick on an obviously well educated GPS boy. I know who will present themself, and sound better in an interview----NOT YOU.
What is on your resume. year 12. CPL. We all have it. what is wrong with giving yourself an edge over the next pilot.
The airlines certainly take into account what kind of education you have had.
Notrouble, with you attitude I doubt you would last 5 secs. in a debate with this guy. Or get into an airline.
Keep your weak little nothing opinions to yourself.
What is on your resume. year 12. CPL. We all have it. what is wrong with giving yourself an edge over the next pilot.
The airlines certainly take into account what kind of education you have had.
Notrouble, with you attitude I doubt you would last 5 secs. in a debate with this guy. Or get into an airline.
Keep your weak little nothing opinions to yourself.
xkred27 :
Obviously is a rather bold statement don't you think? I know plenty of guys who went to GPS schools who ended up with the dreaded "15 and under" in their NSW TER. Their parents must have been really happy forking out that cash! Sure they probably made some good contacts and might sound the part in an interview (if they ever get offered one) but they are hardly "well educated".
Don't want to start the debate on public vs. private education but be careful making generalisations like that one!
TL
obviously well educated GPS boy
Don't want to start the debate on public vs. private education but be careful making generalisations like that one!
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Hey Transition you beat me to it, when you check out a wannabee I don't give a sh1t about their education I want to see how they can fly and I find some of the so called well educated smartarses F***ing hopeless. Just my 2 cents worth.
Sorry too many glasses. Cheers Q
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Putting Scotch College on his resume just gives a further point of contact that you may be able to use as a reference if the other references are divided between what type of person he is. I'd say he is doing you a favour and it wouldn't be hard to check up any of his schooling background which may prove useful at a later stage (i.e he may be able to fly but kept knocking money off when working at the school canteen)
I also did debating at a Melbourne school (not Scotch). I believe that it gave me good decision making skills, quick thinking skills, improved my communication skills, helped my confidence and the ability to think laterally. Those would make good qualities in a pilot wouldn't they?
I also did debating at a Melbourne school (not Scotch). I believe that it gave me good decision making skills, quick thinking skills, improved my communication skills, helped my confidence and the ability to think laterally. Those would make good qualities in a pilot wouldn't they?
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Would have to agree with Louie the Fly.
The best one I've seen was when I was working for a small bush charter company and a resume arrived, the front page was a picture of the aspiring pilot half way up a tree wearing a tux!!
We had a laugh over that one!
Keep them short and sweet I say!
The best one I've seen was when I was working for a small bush charter company and a resume arrived, the front page was a picture of the aspiring pilot half way up a tree wearing a tux!!
We had a laugh over that one!
Keep them short and sweet I say!
on spotting this post, I was looking forward to reading a couple of funny tales.
D & G - you're too serious!
Have a laugh people!! the sun will still come up tomorrow even if you didnt moan today.
D & G - you're too serious!
Have a laugh people!! the sun will still come up tomorrow even if you didnt moan today.
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Not such a silly idea really.
You had a laugh, but it got your attention - and - you still remember it to this day.
When you are receiving dozens of resumes its the ones that are 'a little different' that stand out from the crowd and will get looked at first.
Having said that, if the contents don't match your expectations the job will most likely go to someone more suitable, but at least they got a look in!
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Not such a silly idea really.
You had a laugh, but it got your attention - and - you still remember it to this day.
When you are receiving dozens of resumes its the ones that are 'a little different' that stand out from the crowd and will get looked at first.
Having said that, if the contents don't match your expectations the job will most likely go to someone more suitable, but at least they got a look in!
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LETHAL WEAPON:
Yep, 30 pages - that's what 25 years in the workforce and a raft of abbreviations after your name will get you.....but like I said, prospectives get a Resume, and only those who specifically ask would get a CV.
If I am considering employing someone, the Resume & selection criteria gives me the highlights to form a shortlist, then those on the shortlist get to submit a CV and attend an interview. When I talk to them, I focus on the areas in the CV that are applicable to the position, but also on any areas that are interesting, unlikely, or imply/demonstrate an ability to progress.
Anyone seen the Simpsons episode where Marge gets a job at the Power Plant? Smithers shows her into the control room and says "Its all yours", she asks "But how do I operate it?"; he chuckles and replies "But Ms Simpson, according to your resume you DESIGNED this machine!".
Several TAFEs and personal consultancies run courses on how to write Resumes & CVs; it is an interesting subject. One hint for anyone sending Resumes out - do yourself a BIG favour and aviod the cellosheen envelope folders, the fully laminated bindings and the multi-colour off-set printing; just a simple, well laid out, 10-12pt font, 1 1/2 line break, black on white, stapled in the top left corner.
Cheers!
Yep, 30 pages - that's what 25 years in the workforce and a raft of abbreviations after your name will get you.....but like I said, prospectives get a Resume, and only those who specifically ask would get a CV.
If I am considering employing someone, the Resume & selection criteria gives me the highlights to form a shortlist, then those on the shortlist get to submit a CV and attend an interview. When I talk to them, I focus on the areas in the CV that are applicable to the position, but also on any areas that are interesting, unlikely, or imply/demonstrate an ability to progress.
Anyone seen the Simpsons episode where Marge gets a job at the Power Plant? Smithers shows her into the control room and says "Its all yours", she asks "But how do I operate it?"; he chuckles and replies "But Ms Simpson, according to your resume you DESIGNED this machine!".
Several TAFEs and personal consultancies run courses on how to write Resumes & CVs; it is an interesting subject. One hint for anyone sending Resumes out - do yourself a BIG favour and aviod the cellosheen envelope folders, the fully laminated bindings and the multi-colour off-set printing; just a simple, well laid out, 10-12pt font, 1 1/2 line break, black on white, stapled in the top left corner.
Cheers!
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My apologies for following a tangent on this thread.
xkred27...
People with attitudes like yours irritate me.
I was on the debating team also. The main difference was I went to Hedland Senior High School - a state school in the north west of WA. The education I received was no less effective than yours, although the emphasis was on the practical, as well as the theoretical.
Maybe you have a smattering of latin? I can weld.
Maybe you look good in a tuxedo up a tree? My debating skills allowed me to communicate with noongah kids twice my size, and not get a flogging.
I'm sure you know which utensil to use when eating spotted dick.
I speak four languages, have had lengthy conversations with, South Pacific politicians, the US Naval Attache in Uruguay, count a Malaysian prince among my friends, I've lived in a Rio de Janeiro shanty town, and know how to find water in the desert. All of this I achieved with a state education, and my own persistance and dedication.
You arrogant tosser.
Once again, my regrets to all at being prodded into taking this tangent.
xkred27...
People with attitudes like yours irritate me.
I was on the debating team also. The main difference was I went to Hedland Senior High School - a state school in the north west of WA. The education I received was no less effective than yours, although the emphasis was on the practical, as well as the theoretical.
Maybe you have a smattering of latin? I can weld.
Maybe you look good in a tuxedo up a tree? My debating skills allowed me to communicate with noongah kids twice my size, and not get a flogging.
I'm sure you know which utensil to use when eating spotted dick.
I speak four languages, have had lengthy conversations with, South Pacific politicians, the US Naval Attache in Uruguay, count a Malaysian prince among my friends, I've lived in a Rio de Janeiro shanty town, and know how to find water in the desert. All of this I achieved with a state education, and my own persistance and dedication.
You arrogant tosser.
Once again, my regrets to all at being prodded into taking this tangent.