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Old 4th Jan 2023, 04:23
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182 crashed into trees at Porepunkah

Campers heard the aircraft take off at 4:40am, followed by an engine splutter and a bang. At some point they notified authorities.

Approximately 5-6 hours later the damaged aircraft was located by a local pilot from the air.

Small plane crashes into trees at Mount Buffalo in Victoria after taking off from Porepunkah | 7NEWS

It is my belief that first light was at 5:28am today.


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Campers heard the aircraft take off at 4:40am, followed by an engine splutter and a bang. At some point they notified authorities.

Approximately 5-6 hours later the damaged aircraft was located by a local pilot from the air.

Small plane crashes into trees at Mount Buffalo in Victoria after taking off from Porepunkah | 7NEWS

It is my belief that first light was at 5:28am today.
Carby icing maybe?

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Somatogravic problem ?
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Originally Posted by Squawk7700
Campers heard the aircraft take off at 4:40am, followed by an engine splutter and a bang. At some point they notified authorities.

Approximately 5-6 hours later the damaged aircraft was located by a local pilot from the air.

Small plane crashes into trees at Mount Buffalo in Victoria after taking off from Porepunkah | 7NEWS

It is my belief that first light was at 5:28am today.
Considering the terrain all around YPOK first actual light would be beyond the calculated time by a decent amount. I also thought there was no runway lights, and even if there were, climbing through those valleys and hills in the dark is most likely not smart.
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Originally Posted by 43Inches
Considering the terrain all around YPOK first actual light would be beyond the calculated time by a decent amount. I also thought there was no runway lights, and even if there were, climbing through those valleys and hills in the dark is most likely not smart.
You’re picking up what I’m putting down there 43 :-) It was a southbound departure.

JT, was it SI? That was absolutely my first thought, however the “spluttering” part threw me. That being said, a throttle reduction could be construed as spluttering I guess.

Poor sod was stuck in the aircraft for nearly 6 hours apparently.
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Poor sod was stuck in the aircraft for nearly 6 hours apparently.
Better than being dead.

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Lucky no post accident fire.
If there had been then a crispy critter.
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was it SI?

I have no specific knowledge of what might have happened - hence the question mark in my earlier post. However, an 0-dark-30 departure, especially if it were good and properly dark, raises the thought of the illusion and back into the ground. The illusion can be overwhelming, especially if one endeavours to fly without reference to an adequate set of dials. Non-aviation eye-witness reporting can be notoriously unreliable as shown by history.
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Originally Posted by Squawk7700
You’re picking up what I’m putting down there 43 :-) It was a southbound departure.

JT, was it SI? That was absolutely my first thought, however the “spluttering” part threw me. That being said, a throttle reduction could be construed as spluttering I guess.

Poor sod was stuck in the aircraft for nearly 6 hours apparently.
One of the rescue crew said he was out f the wreckage. I saw footage of it & there was virtually nothing left. The rescue crew guy said looking at it you can't believe he survived.

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It was a 182, not a 172 that is the subject title:

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Originally Posted by Kulwin Park
It was a 182, not a 172 that is the subject title:
I can’t change it sorry.

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Moon set over an hour before, more given Mt Buffalo to the west.

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The camera images are free for all to look at on windy.com for those that are interested. Timestamps are GMT+10.
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Originally Posted by Kulwin Park
It was a 182, not a 172 that is the subject title:
FlightAware shows that as having landed 10 months ago up in Archerfield. Not that that means anything though.

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Water not drained from the gas tank leading to engine splutter?

If it is dark and you do the routine drain of the tanks, can you you really tell how much water you have removed?

I’ve only ever had at most an inch or so (3 cm) of water in the sample I’ve drained, but I have heard of it being much more. In the dark it could be hard to tell the difference between the water and the av fuel, so maybe there was residual water that made the engine splutter on take off.

Plus, I was told to rock the wings before drawing the fuel, as that would shake free any water condensed inside the tanks of a partially fueled plane, and let me get rid of it, rather than have it shake loose and get into the fuel mixture during run up and takeoff.
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Water not drained from the gas tank leading to engine splutter?

If it is dark and you do the routine drain of the tanks, can you you really tell how much water you have removed?

I’ve only ever had at most an inch or so (3 cm) of water in the sample I’ve drained, but I have heard of it being much more. In the dark it could be hard to tell the difference between the water and the av fuel, so maybe there was residual water that made the engine splutter on take off.

Plus, I was told to rock the wings before drawing the fuel, as that would shake free any water condensed inside the tanks of a partially fueled plane, and let me get rid of it, rather than have it shake loose and get into the fuel mixture during run up and takeoff.
I would have thought all that would do is mix the water that had already settled with the fuel !?
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No fire, maybe no fuel?

Don't know about Ypok, but an aerodrome can have portable lights and a responsible person. Also some aerodromes do not advertise lights in ERSA to avoid night buzzings from various schools.

In any case it appears the flight plan was submitted and SAR time actioned.

Curious how far from the aerodrome an aircraft crashed.
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mix the water that had already settled with the fuel

Avgas and water don't mix to any extent.
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Originally Posted by Bosi72
No fire, maybe no fuel?

Don't know about Ypok, but an aerodrome can have portable lights and a responsible person. Also some aerodromes do not advertise lights in ERSA to avoid night buzzings from various schools.

In any case it appears the flight plan was submitted and SAR time actioned.

Curious how far from the aerodrome an aircraft crashed.
If there were portable runway lights and a responsible person in attendance, what was the responsible person doing? Particularly if the aircraft crashed in close proximity to the aerodrome.

Agree with the discussions about the fuel/water. I’m pretty sure the 182P has bladder cells in it, that sometimes can trap water easily in comparison to wet wings, particularly if the aircraft isn’t parked on level ground.
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