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Old 6th Sep 2022, 06:42
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It's been two decades since I fondled the controls so don't know what the state of play is regarding regs these days, but in days of yore lads would wait until dark for the trip home (no pax of course) in order to clock up the night hours for the ATPL, naturally had to be night rated, but conditions with no ground or celestial lighting it's hard core IMC. They were just making use of opportunities to gain experience at no cost to the employer.
How long would these flights typically be? In terms of distance and time wise.
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How long would these flights typically be? In terms of distance and time wise
How long is a piece of string? Sorry to be unhelpful, not some thing I was personally involved with, just information gained..
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Still happens today, however carefully managed for most within 48.1 limits (unless you’re an operator in KNP - regs don’t apply to Rees)
A lot of rules seem to not apply...
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Originally Posted by megan
It's been two decades since I fondled the controls so don't know what the state of play is regarding regs these days, but in days of yore lads would wait until dark for the trip home (no pax of course) in order to clock up the night hours for the ATPL
Broome- Darwin, Ayers Rock- Katherine, Brisbane- Alice Springs C402 solo in the dark for the 100 hrs night SCPL requirement. CAO what?. Then sanity prevailed.
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but in days of yore lads would wait until dark for the trip home (no pax of course) in order to clock up the night hours for the ATPL, naturally had to be night rated, but conditions with no ground or celestial lighting it's hard core IMC.
Yup. Did that one night back in the late 80's in a C206 out of Birdsville, headed for Moomba Gas Field.

Was not entirely IMC though; Had to deal with a few en-route Cb's. Easily avoided though. Just stayed well away from the lightning and tried to keep in areas where stars were visible....

When I think back on that night now.....
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All good fun, eh? There used to be a C206 paper run south from Darwin, where they threw a couple of jerry can of avgas in the back so you could make the range required...
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Originally Posted by Hyrees
Still happens today, however carefully managed for most within 48.1 limits (unless you’re an operator in KNP - regs don’t apply to Rees)
Don't get me started on that knob rocket operation.
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It was C210’s . . . and the “aux tanks” were to avoid the KTR refueller call out fee.

They were the days . . . .
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a couple of jerry can of avga
How much did you spill? Must have been a fun exercise climbing up in order to pour in the tank.
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A couple of dem 210’s ended up with no motion lotion left landing a little off track!

Wasn’t the paper run also done in a 172RG or similar? Brolga Air rings a bell.

Needless to say that was certainly a ticket to mega night hours! If people want to talk about challenging flying, pre magenta line and clapped out old aircraft, respect to every paperrunner!
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A couple of dem 210’s ended up with no motion lotion left landing a little off track!

Wasn’t the paper run also done in a 172RG or similar? Brolga Air rings a bell.

Needless to say that was certainly a ticket to mega night hours! If people want to talk about challenging flying, pre magenta line and clapped out old aircraft, respect to every paperrunner!
At least it doesn’t take much to climb above the terrain…
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