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Old 25th Apr 2022, 07:11
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"Red Bull" pilots swap aircraft in mid flight demonstration.

Incident Cessna 182G Skylane N3694U, 24 Apr 2022 (aviation-safety.net)

Red Bull pilots demonstrate mid air pilot change over......

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A few empty cans of red bull might supply enough aluminium for repairs.
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AvWeek reporting that the FAA declined permission for the flights to temporarily have nobody at the controls - and they went ahead anyway…
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Interesting to watch. The one that departed went beyond vertical and went into an inverted spin- maybe in the excitement he pushed a bit too hard?
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Brought to you by the same halfwits that caused the world wide grounding of the blanik glider fleet.
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Originally Posted by Wizofoz View Post
Interesting to watch. The one that departed went beyond vertical and went into an inverted spin- maybe in the excitement he pushed a bit too hard?
Perhaps with no-one up front it was outside the fore/aft C of G limits, which would make it more prone to unusual spin characteristics.

I've mentioned here before that I've been in an inverted spin in a C152 - it had two of us up front but it had been poorly rigged.
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Several low cost carriers looking at this for faster crew turn arounds . .
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque View Post
Perhaps with no-one up front it was outside the fore/aft C of G limits, which would make it more prone to unusual spin characteristics.

I've mentioned here before that I've been in an inverted spin in a C152 - it had two of us up front but it had been poorly rigged.
Interestibg thought- one thing they wouldn't have tested was the dive with no-one on board!!
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Anyone know why this attempt used a speed brake when there have been several successful skydiver entries of aircraft in near vertical descents slowed by a chute?

The only difference I see is that the pilot left the aircraft. Chute is stabilizing in pitch and yaw and the autopilot would only need to zero the roll rate. Clearly the autopilot did a poor job of stabilizing one of the aircraft in both pitch and yaw in this failed attempt.
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Interesting thought- one thing they wouldn't have tested was the dive with no-one on board!!
Anyone know why this attempt used a speed brake when there have been several successful skydiver entries of aircraft in near vertical descents slowed by a chute?
Maybe the speed brake thingy was an attempt to stabilise the spin tendency with no one on board??
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Originally Posted by EXDAC View Post
Anyone know why this attempt used a speed brake when there have been several successful skydiver entries of aircraft in near vertical descents slowed by a chute?

The only difference I see is that the pilot left the aircraft. Chute is stabilizing in pitch and yaw and the autopilot would only need to zero the roll rate. Clearly the autopilot did a poor job of stabilizing one of the aircraft in both pitch and yaw in this failed attempt.
I would imagine that its because the speed of an aeroplane diving near-vertically (without such things as beta prop pitch) would easily exceed the free fall speed of a skydiver.
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I would imagine that its because the speed of an aeroplane diving near-vertically (without such things as beta prop pitch) would easily exceed the free fall speed of a skydiver.
I can only assume you have not looked at videos of the other skydiver entries to aircraft in descent. All previous successful attempts have used a drogue chute to control the rate of descent of the target aircraft in a near vertical dive.
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FAA revokes licenses of red bull pilots plane swappers

https://thehill.com/news/3486186-faa...ll-plane-swap/The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) said Thursday that it has revoked the licenses of the two pilots involved in the unauthorized Red Bull plane swap stunt that took place in April in Arizona.

The pilots tried to swap planes while descending. One pilot landed without injuries after being forced to jump and parachute to the ground after one of the Cessna 182s spun out of control.

The other pilot regained control of the second aircraft and landed, the agency told The Hill last month.
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A good first step...
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They should contact Trevor Jacob, whose license was revoked as well:


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