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Old 22nd Feb 2022, 10:27
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Running out of rego’s

So apparently there are well less than 100 GA rego combinations left, reducing at a rate of over 10 per week.

What happens next???
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Old 22nd Feb 2022, 11:09
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Start using VI prefix, I assume?
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The Civil Aircraft Register currently shows 16003 entries. May or not be up-to-date, after all it is CAsA.
Showing 1 - 30 of 16003 results.

Total number of unique combinations of three letter combinations.
26 x 26 x 26 = 17576.
= 1573 available registrations?
17576 divided by 10 per week = 157 weeks = 3 years.
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Old 22nd Feb 2022, 11:39
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Cool

Not really an issue:

B- xxxx will solve the problem!
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Old 22nd Feb 2022, 19:32
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Originally Posted by Two_dogs
The Civil Aircraft Register currently shows 16003 entries. May or not be up-to-date, after all it is CAsA.
Showing 1 - 30 of 16003 results.

Total number of unique combinations of three letter combinations.
26 x 26 x 26 = 17576.
= 1573 available registrations?
17576 divided by 10 per week = 157 weeks = 3 years.
I am going by the list of available marks… the rest must be reserved.
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Old 22nd Feb 2022, 19:41
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Australia has the VI- prefix too? Perhaps the CAsA KingAir or whatever they get around in these days could have VI-RUS? Maybe Glen B could grab VI-CTM...

63 available marks you can reserve as of this morning. 17,576 - (16,003 + 63) = 1,510 marks currently "unavailable" for whatever reason, probably already reserved. At least we don't have the scenario they do in the US where some parasite bulk-reserves groups of short N numbers and tries to flog them back to owners at exorbitant rates...
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Old 23rd Feb 2022, 00:39
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Why not reuse registration codes?
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Old 23rd Feb 2022, 01:05
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We do reuse them...
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Old 23rd Feb 2022, 01:17
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Originally Posted by oceancrosser
Why not reuse registration codes?
As per below, we do re-use them, however there are a large number that are written off and will never fly again that could be released.

That being said, it would only delay the inevitable as we would run out anyway.
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I vaguely recall a proposal some years ago (maybe mid-90's) to change the Australian prefix from VH- to V-.

The Canadians did this 40-odd years ago, and changed from CF- to C-, thus freeing up thousands of new possibilities.

As I see it, starting a VI- prefix would only cause confusion; what if VH-ABC and VI-ABC are on the same frequency at the same time?
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Old 23rd Feb 2022, 03:18
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More than likely VM- , this was previously allocated to Australian government aircraft in the 50's-60's, Caribous, Hercs etc. They may not have actually been painted on but they certainly were allocated.
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“V” won’t help if you’re still using ABC as the callsign.

To avoid all confusion it will have to have a number in it.

Making it 4 letters won’t help either as if you miss one, you’ll be confused with a 3 letter callsign.

I’m keen to hear the solution for this!

Most likely VH-3AD if it has to remain as 3 characters.

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Old 23rd Feb 2022, 04:26
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That'd give an extra 6,760 available marks just by going to a letter or number / letter / letter combination..
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Originally Posted by Squawk7700
“V” won’t help if you’re still using ABC as the callsign.

To avoid all confusion it will have to have a number in it.

Making it 4 letters won’t help either as if you miss one, you’ll be confused with a 3 letter callsign.

I’m keen to hear the solution for this!

Most likely VH-3AD if it has to remain as 3 characters.
I like this idea, but wouldn't callsigns starting with a number prove confusing/ unavailable due to other radio callsigns (e.g. 3AW, 3XY, 2GB?)
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Old 23rd Feb 2022, 04:46
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I doubt, very much, that ATC/Centre will wonder whether Cessna 172 Two Golf Bravo 5,500' ASST calling on 124.1mHz is actually a Sydney radio station broadcasting on 873kHz.
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Get that part, but on the paperwork/legal side of things it will be interesting to see how it would play out
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Though when 2RN is a VFR reporting point for a major Class D, there might be a problem with a couple of specific callsigns...
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Lots of software will need to be updated.
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Old 23rd Feb 2022, 05:22
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Sit tight, I've sent the question to CASA Aircraft Registrar. I'm curious about it too.
Would not surprise me if I get back "we're looking into that now." ("now" might be too late!)
I did search ICAO info a while ago, found nothing useful about future allocations/series.
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Originally Posted by KRviator
Though when 2RN is a VFR reporting point for a major Class D, there might be a problem with a couple of specific callsigns...
Then put the number at the end…
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