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How would a CPL have cost in 1988?

Old 30th May 2021, 01:13
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IN the UK in 1990 0-BCPL which was 250 hours was about sixteen thousand pounds.
I did all the training in Jersey and England and the command time in Florida.
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Old 30th May 2021, 01:32
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1993 I was paying $100 / hr on a c152 at Camden.

What’s the rate today?

Medicals and publication were a lot cheaper
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Old 30th May 2021, 11:34
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Publications could be $0 if these people allowed taking them in electronic format.
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Old 3rd Jun 2021, 11:12
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In 1966/67 at Royal Vic a PA 28 was $12 dual, $10 solo but at that rate you never got the same instructor twice and no briefings at all. Of course the Chipmunk was a couple of dollars cheaper and the smell of vomit and fuel was at no extra cost.
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Old 3rd Jun 2021, 14:04
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the smell of vomit and fuel was at no extra cost
Absolutely nothing wrong with the smell of fuel, but can't say it was a feature in the Chippie when bashing about with Clem Atkins, or when solo, nor vomit. Maybe you or your passenger just had a bad case of halitosis.
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Old 3rd Jun 2021, 16:39
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Geez I must have been getting shafted.

Started in ‘89 and was paying $115/hr dual in a C172.

On the plus side every instructor I flew with was 30+ (most were probably 40+) and had hundreds (more likely thousands) of hours experience.
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Old 3rd Jun 2021, 23:07
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Originally Posted by megan View Post
Absolutely nothing wrong with the smell of fuel, but can't say it was a feature in the Chippie when bashing about with Clem Atkins, or when solo, nor vomit. Maybe you or your passenger just had a bad case of halitosis.
Yeah, Clem Atkins was probably the only instructor that I didn't fly with at RVAC and maybe Bill Campbell Hicks. I did work for Clem a few years later at Airchart, nice guy, he organised another job for me when they closed down.
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Old 5th Jun 2021, 00:09
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In the mid 70’s, I paid $7000 for my CPL. I was employed very soon after on a salary of $8500 per year.

What is the cost now, $80k - $120k? For a salary of? If you can get a job!

I think thats the best telling comparison right there.
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Old 5th Jun 2021, 00:52
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On the plus side every instructor I flew with was 30+ (most were probably 40+) and had hundreds (more likely thousands) of hours experience
You make a very good point, but folk do have to start somewhere. Did an instrument trip in a 172 with one instructor, Peter Raven, all of 21 years old at the time, only trip I ever did with him. One day a pax forwarded an exercise book to the cockpit with a request to fill out the details, was a quasi log book, flipping through it came to Peters name, command in a QF 744, a lot grander machine and position than the one I was punting.
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Old 20th Jun 2021, 10:28
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Originally Posted by Roj approved View Post
G’day All,

I started ASBK in ‘89, $91 dual, $81 solo in the Pa28.

Did my Unrestricted PPL + NVFR, then a 30 hour trip getting lost in the outback. Back the the flying school and straight onto the Instrument Rating on the Pa28, then the Mighty Duchess, Be76, to finish off.

I had about 155 hours at the end of the MECIR, so only needed to do a few Nav’s to be ready for the CPL test.

Then out looking for a job with all the others at the back end of the pilots dispute.
Hey Roj, I can relate. Early 1990 I gained the CPL and ME IR. Pilot's dispute just coming to an end so a heap of 500-1,000hr CPLs ahead of me. Over the next 15 years built a few hours then parked the licence for 15 years. Late 2019 dusted off the old Part 5 licence and upgraded to Part 61 - some training then BFR and commenced IFR recency training with the aim to resume an aviation career, albeit belatedly. Then COVID hit so parked the refresher training

Back in 1990 the CPL, ME IR cost me around $30,000 and included ATPL subjects. Instructor rating in 1991 was around $7,000. All 50 hours was with rated instructors - we didn't do any mutual with other instructor students which I believe was allowed back then.
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Old 20th Jun 2021, 11:30
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My memory is slipping but recall an IR in the 80's driving a Twin Can was under $3K, can't recall the Commercial side of it but working 3 jobs I had zero debt at the end of it all.
i was part ownership of a C150 in the late 70's where our group worked on $10 HR inc gas..........what happened to those figures? -)
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Old 23rd Jun 2021, 01:00
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VFR CPL in mid 1980s

I did my 200 hour VFR CPL, in the mid 1980s. I remember the cost of a Tomahawk at the start of my training was $33/hr. All up that was around $20k. There wasn't much you could do with that, so needed around another $5K for an instructor rating, and another $5k for an multi-instrument rating. That could get you a casual charter job out bush or casual instructing job in a major city paying around $20k/year, if you were lucky.

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Old 23rd Jun 2021, 01:10
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Early/Mid 90s 152 hire rate was about $65/$75 solo with 172 and PA28 rates about $10-$20 an hour dearer, an extra $30 or so per hour for dual rates. I think that was with club discounts, still have some rate sheets somewhere. I remember private licences were quoted about $5k and commercial around $20k with CIR and IR courses an additional $5-$8k dependent on operator. By 2000 those figures were starting to double.
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Old 23rd Jun 2021, 22:45
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Also no landing fees back in the 80s/early 90s. This certainly adds to the cost of training these days.
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 22:14
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It cost the same back then as it does now......All of it
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 22:49
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I did my CPL in NZ in 1991 and it cost me $90/hour solo in a C152, instructor was $40 per hour on top. No landing fees or airways charges. CPL IR and Insteuctors rating cost me just under $35k. To put it in perspective though, the fulltime job I had that paid for this in 2.5 years had a salary of $23.5k per year :-).
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