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Old 27th Mar 2021, 01:53
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Originally Posted by krismiler
I know a CX A350 Captain driving a combine harvester and there is even a Facebook group, Pilots4Harvest2020 for those looking for work in the agricultural sector.

There are QF A380 pilots driving buses. https://simpleflying.com/qantas-pilo...80s-for-buses/

Aviation will recover over the next few years, hang in there.
Yep, I have been driving for a ride share mob to make ends meet. Still a long ways before we are all back in "the office" again. I have a funny suspicion COVID hasn't played its final hands yet.

It will be interesting to see how many pilots world wide either can't or don't want to return to the industry when things eventually do turn around again. I'd dare say a lot will find or have already found good careers outside of aviation and will never come back. I already know of two personally who plan to stick with their COVID career changes.

The sad part is for the newcomers craving that first airline gig, the wait is likely going to be a very very long one for most.
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Old 27th Mar 2021, 05:34
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With so few people training for licences since COVID-19 started, and so many leaving the profession, there wil be a bubble effect which will take years to work through the system and might benefit someone who’s currently in high school.

With what will probably be a 2 - 5 year period of very few new CPLs being issued, once the food chain is moving normally there will be very few junior pilots coming in at the bottom to replace those on the ladder stepping up. This shortage will progress through the levels as the years go by and someone in the right place at the right time could ride the wave of having very little competition as he goes through the usual stages of advancement from first job to jet commander.
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Old 27th Mar 2021, 11:05
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With so few people training for licences since COVID-19 started, and so many leaving the profession, there wil be a bubble effect which will take years to work through the system and might benefit someone who’s currently in high school.

With what will probably be a 2 - 5 year period of very few new CPLs being issued, once the food chain is moving normally there will be very few junior pilots coming in at the bottom to replace those on the ladder stepping up. This shortage will progress through the levels as the years go by and someone in the right place at the right time could ride the wave of having very little competition as he goes through the usual stages of advancement from first job to jet commander.
I would guess you work at a flying school
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Old 28th Mar 2021, 04:56
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In the not too distant future a heterosexual male or female will be in the minority in any job position!
The alphabet used to have 26 letters in it, I'm waiting for that number to expand!
Ive known a few career female plane drivers, most moved on to more maternal duties.
There will always be more males in the cockpit, just the wway it was just the way it will always be!
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Old 28th Mar 2021, 06:01
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Originally Posted by krismiler
With so few people training for licences since COVID-19 started, and so many leaving the profession, there wil be a bubble effect which will take years to work through the system and might benefit someone who’s currently in high school.

With what will probably be a 2 - 5 year period of very few new CPLs being issued, once the food chain is moving normally there will be very few junior pilots coming in at the bottom to replace those on the ladder stepping up. This shortage will progress through the levels as the years go by and someone in the right place at the right time could ride the wave of having very little competition as he goes through the usual stages of advancement from first job to jet commander.

In my 30 years in this industry there has never been a shortage of junior CPLs at the bottom. I don't believe there ever will be. There are plenty of CPL wannabees doing training here so why would there be fewer CPLs being issued?

It's this sort of thing that leaves people like the OP in the place they find themselves.

Oh and there are women coming through the system too, so get used to it!
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Old 28th Mar 2021, 09:13
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Pilot employment is and has always been highly cyclical, feast or famine. COVID 19 is a major event comparable to a large scale war and is resulting in a major and ongoing shake up. At present there are no jobs for new CPL holders and unlikely to be for the foreseeable future, it makes no sense to train at the moment. Pilots are leaving the profession in large numbers, mostly not through choice and many will be unwilling or unable to return to aviation. The march of time continues and people don't stop turning 65 and losing their licence.

The eventual rebound will mean that some people will be in a good position if their qualifications and experience match the demand at that time, which will be years in the future. Time to command can vary from 5 to 20 years, if you joined Virgin Blue at the start when Ansett collapsed, upgrades in 2 years weren't uncommon. However if you joined a few years later you'd be sitting behind Captains in their late 30s/early 40s who wouldn't be retiring for a couple of decades.
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Old 28th Mar 2021, 21:39
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Life is tough and at times unfair. Go door knock at every airport if that’s what it takes.

Remember the squeaky wheel gets the oil. Be persistent and eventually a door will open.
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