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Electronic Logbook

Old 5th Jan 2021, 14:19
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Electronic Logbook

Hi Everyone,

I’m interested in finding out which electronic logbook you use (specifically down under). I’d like it to print in the Australian standard format.

Can anyone recommend a good one, preferably across iPhone and Mac devices?

Even better if you can import your flying from LogTen Pro. I’m fed up with their lack of rewarding loyalty (10+ years), so I’m done with them.

Best wishes to all for 2021!
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Old 6th Jan 2021, 04:17
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Changing from Logten pro

G'day Rather B,

I changed from Logten Pro for similar reasons, am now using PILOTLOG, it’s ok, a bit klunky but you can import from Logten Pro and most of the airlines roster systems.

The pricing schedule is going the same way as All the others , but I guess they have to make their money somehow.

https://pilotlog.crewlounge.aero/download/
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Old 6th Jan 2021, 11:57
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I use Safelog and have been very impressed with their product. Useable across multiple platforms.
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Old 7th Jan 2021, 03:26
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Originally Posted by morno View Post
I use Safelog and have been very impressed with their product. Useable across multiple platforms.
I second Safelog, great program. Very easy to use after a short learning curve and accessible from anywhere on any device

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Old 11th Jan 2021, 14:38
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Thanks for the replies.

Both products are at a similar price point. I didn't like the feel of the PILOTLOG iOS app, and I read a few bad reviews. Decided to take the plunge with Safelog. Already received my LogTen .csv file back from them for import. It will take a while to iron out the creases, but I'm impressed so far.

Appreciate the recommendations.

Cheers!
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Old 11th Jan 2021, 22:34
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What’s the annual subscription cost for SafeLog?
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Old 11th Jan 2021, 23:30
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Originally Posted by geeup View Post
What’s the annual subscription cost for SafeLog?
(USD) $49.99 a year, $279.99 for 10 years, $399.99 for “lifetime” (LTP fooled me once on that one already).

While clunky to generate, its representation of the CASA-style logbook is nice. I like being able to modify the ‘specialist’ and IF columns without changing the look of the logbook at all.
​​​​​​​Another thing LTP promised but never delivered.
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Old 12th Jan 2021, 00:10
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Second Safelog.
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Old 12th Jan 2021, 01:26
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I use this one. Opens first time, backs up readily to Cloud and compatible with earlier versions.
You will need a calculator from time to time.



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Old 12th Jan 2021, 20:38
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When I started flying, the world was using cassette tape for storage.
When I was a flying instructor, the world was using 5 1⁄4-inch floppy disks.
When I was a freight pilot in Darwin, the world was using ​3 1⁄2-inch floppy disks.
When I was in the airline in Perth, the world first had the internet.
When I moved to the UK, the world began using USB sticks.
.. and now "the cloud" and relying on one piece of proprietory software seems to be the thing, and I think that's two companies I know of who have reneged on their "lifetime" deals.

... so I am very glad that I, also, have recorded everything on paper logbooks like the one above.

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Old 12th Jan 2021, 21:19
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Originally Posted by Checkboard View Post
When I started flying, the world was using cassette tape for storage.
When I was a flying instructor, the world was using 5 1⁄4-inch floppy disks.
When I was a freight pilot in Darwin, the world was using ​3 1⁄2-inch floppy disks.
When I was in the airline in Perth, the world first had the internet.
When I moved to the UK, the world began using USB sticks.
.. and now "the cloud" and relying on one piece of proprietory software seems to be the thing, and I think that's two companies I know of who have reneged on their "lifetime" deals.

... so I am very glad that I, also, have recorded everything on paper logbooks like the one above.
Hahaha, Checkboard, we must be a similar age😂

While I use one of these programs, I still keep an up to date “ish” paper logbook, always have.
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Old 13th Jan 2021, 16:01
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The only thing I find the electronic logbook good for is when you have one of those job applications that asks for things like

All multi engine piston dual hours
All single engine night PIC x country hours
All turbo prop SIC
All jet SIC broken down by type
Etc etc etc

My paper book for works just fine unless you need to know the above hours. Every time I finish a new page, I take a pic or scan it. Put it in the cloud and if paper book ever disappears, I have a back up. In a job interview I had in 2018, the HR person said I must bring my up to date paper logbook to interview. During the interview my book was scrutinised thoroughly and questions asked about types and hours. The comment was also made that they had found a positive correlation between how neat a logbook is and quality of pilot if hired.
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Old 14th Jan 2021, 01:41
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom View Post
I use this one. Opens first time, backs up readily to Cloud and compatible with earlier versions.
You will need a calculator from time to time.



CASA logbook! I thought they went out of print years ago?! Probably worth some money nowadays seeing Casa don’t do much else!

During the interview my book was scrutinised thoroughly and questions asked about types and hours. The comment was also made that they had found a positive correlation between how neat a logbook is and quality of pilot if hired.
if you have another choice, keep walking to the next place!
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Old 14th Jan 2021, 20:06
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Fake hours are big problem not only in Australia but almost everywhere now.

The electronic log book allows you to "beef up" time by inserting it at a previous date. If your paper log is up to date it's very difficult to "pen in" a few extra multi hours without it looking suspicious.
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