Electronic Logbook
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 7
Electronic Logbook
Hi Everyone,
I’m interested in finding out which electronic logbook you use (specifically down under). I’d like it to print in the Australian standard format.
Can anyone recommend a good one, preferably across iPhone and Mac devices?
Even better if you can import your flying from LogTen Pro. I’m fed up with their lack of rewarding loyalty (10+ years), so I’m done with them.
Best wishes to all for 2021!
I’m interested in finding out which electronic logbook you use (specifically down under). I’d like it to print in the Australian standard format.
Can anyone recommend a good one, preferably across iPhone and Mac devices?
Even better if you can import your flying from LogTen Pro. I’m fed up with their lack of rewarding loyalty (10+ years), so I’m done with them.
Best wishes to all for 2021!
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Australia the Awesome
Posts: 261
Changing from Logten pro
G'day Rather B,
I changed from Logten Pro for similar reasons, am now using PILOTLOG, it’s ok, a bit klunky but you can import from Logten Pro and most of the airlines roster systems.
The pricing schedule is going the same way as All the others , but I guess they have to make their money somehow.
https://pilotlog.crewlounge.aero/download/
I changed from Logten Pro for similar reasons, am now using PILOTLOG, it’s ok, a bit klunky but you can import from Logten Pro and most of the airlines roster systems.
The pricing schedule is going the same way as All the others , but I guess they have to make their money somehow.
https://pilotlog.crewlounge.aero/download/
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 239
Originally Posted by morno
I use Safelog and have been very impressed with their product. Useable across multiple platforms.
Last edited by mcoates; 7th Jan 2021 at 03:26. Reason: bad spelling AGAIN
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 7
Thanks for the replies.
Both products are at a similar price point. I didn't like the feel of the PILOTLOG iOS app, and I read a few bad reviews. Decided to take the plunge with Safelog. Already received my LogTen .csv file back from them for import. It will take a while to iron out the creases, but I'm impressed so far.
Appreciate the recommendations.
Cheers!
Both products are at a similar price point. I didn't like the feel of the PILOTLOG iOS app, and I read a few bad reviews. Decided to take the plunge with Safelog. Already received my LogTen .csv file back from them for import. It will take a while to iron out the creases, but I'm impressed so far.
Appreciate the recommendations.
Cheers!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 7
Originally Posted by geeup
What’s the annual subscription cost for SafeLog?
While clunky to generate, its representation of the CASA-style logbook is nice. I like being able to modify the ‘specialist’ and IF columns without changing the look of the logbook at all.
Another thing LTP promised but never delivered.
Join Date: Aug 1998
Location: Ex-pat Aussie in the UK
Posts: 5,138
When I started flying, the world was using cassette tape for storage.
When I was a flying instructor, the world was using 5 1⁄4-inch floppy disks.
When I was a freight pilot in Darwin, the world was using 3 1⁄2-inch floppy disks.
When I was in the airline in Perth, the world first had the internet.
When I moved to the UK, the world began using USB sticks.
.. and now "the cloud" and relying on one piece of proprietory software seems to be the thing, and I think that's two companies I know of who have reneged on their "lifetime" deals.
... so I am very glad that I, also, have recorded everything on paper logbooks like the one above.
When I was a flying instructor, the world was using 5 1⁄4-inch floppy disks.
When I was a freight pilot in Darwin, the world was using 3 1⁄2-inch floppy disks.
When I was in the airline in Perth, the world first had the internet.
When I moved to the UK, the world began using USB sticks.
.. and now "the cloud" and relying on one piece of proprietory software seems to be the thing, and I think that's two companies I know of who have reneged on their "lifetime" deals.
... so I am very glad that I, also, have recorded everything on paper logbooks like the one above.
Last edited by Checkboard; 12th Jan 2021 at 20:49.
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Australia the Awesome
Posts: 261
Originally Posted by Checkboard
When I started flying, the world was using cassette tape for storage.
When I was a flying instructor, the world was using 5 1⁄4-inch floppy disks.
When I was a freight pilot in Darwin, the world was using 3 1⁄2-inch floppy disks.
When I was in the airline in Perth, the world first had the internet.
When I moved to the UK, the world began using USB sticks.
.. and now "the cloud" and relying on one piece of proprietory software seems to be the thing, and I think that's two companies I know of who have reneged on their "lifetime" deals.
... so I am very glad that I, also, have recorded everything on paper logbooks like the one above.
When I was a flying instructor, the world was using 5 1⁄4-inch floppy disks.
When I was a freight pilot in Darwin, the world was using 3 1⁄2-inch floppy disks.
When I was in the airline in Perth, the world first had the internet.
When I moved to the UK, the world began using USB sticks.
.. and now "the cloud" and relying on one piece of proprietory software seems to be the thing, and I think that's two companies I know of who have reneged on their "lifetime" deals.
... so I am very glad that I, also, have recorded everything on paper logbooks like the one above.
While I use one of these programs, I still keep an up to date “ish” paper logbook, always have.
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Mexico City
Posts: 347
The only thing I find the electronic logbook good for is when you have one of those job applications that asks for things like
All multi engine piston dual hours
All single engine night PIC x country hours
All turbo prop SIC
All jet SIC broken down by type
Etc etc etc
My paper book for works just fine unless you need to know the above hours. Every time I finish a new page, I take a pic or scan it. Put it in the cloud and if paper book ever disappears, I have a back up. In a job interview I had in 2018, the HR person said I must bring my up to date paper logbook to interview. During the interview my book was scrutinised thoroughly and questions asked about types and hours. The comment was also made that they had found a positive correlation between how neat a logbook is and quality of pilot if hired.
All multi engine piston dual hours
All single engine night PIC x country hours
All turbo prop SIC
All jet SIC broken down by type
Etc etc etc
My paper book for works just fine unless you need to know the above hours. Every time I finish a new page, I take a pic or scan it. Put it in the cloud and if paper book ever disappears, I have a back up. In a job interview I had in 2018, the HR person said I must bring my up to date paper logbook to interview. During the interview my book was scrutinised thoroughly and questions asked about types and hours. The comment was also made that they had found a positive correlation between how neat a logbook is and quality of pilot if hired.
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: OZZZZZZZZZZZ
Posts: 106
Originally Posted by Capt Fathom
I use this one. Opens first time, backs up readily to Cloud and compatible with earlier versions.
You will need a calculator from time to time.
You will need a calculator from time to time.
During the interview my book was scrutinised thoroughly and questions asked about types and hours. The comment was also made that they had found a positive correlation between how neat a logbook is and quality of pilot if hired.
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Mexico City
Posts: 347
Fake hours are big problem not only in Australia but almost everywhere now.
The electronic log book allows you to "beef up" time by inserting it at a previous date. If your paper log is up to date it's very difficult to "pen in" a few extra multi hours without it looking suspicious.
The electronic log book allows you to "beef up" time by inserting it at a previous date. If your paper log is up to date it's very difficult to "pen in" a few extra multi hours without it looking suspicious.
