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Hi All,
I recently finished all of my training (frozen ATPL) and have a lot of debt (discussed elsewhere!), and looked at different ways of kickstarting my flying career. Does anyone know much about how difficult it is to get a shot at the "Qantaslink Trainee First Officer" role? The minimum requirements seem quite low (but a bonus for me!). Any tips or experience would be great!
Nigel
Source - https://www.qantas.com/au/en/about-u...perations.html
I recently finished all of my training (frozen ATPL) and have a lot of debt (discussed elsewhere!), and looked at different ways of kickstarting my flying career. Does anyone know much about how difficult it is to get a shot at the "Qantaslink Trainee First Officer" role? The minimum requirements seem quite low (but a bonus for me!). Any tips or experience would be great!
Nigel
Source - https://www.qantas.com/au/en/about-u...perations.html
Offer to work for free?
Go into more debt and get an instructor's rating. Then go and build your hours teaching others. If you wait for recruiting opportunities in an airline even at the regional level you will be waiting for a while. There are currently hundreds of airline pilots driving headers and working at Woolies so the need for new pilots will take some time.
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Hi All,
I recently finished all of my training (frozen ATPL) and have a lot of debt (discussed elsewhere!), and looked at different ways of kickstarting my flying career. Does anyone know much about how difficult it is to get a shot at the "Qantaslink Trainee First Officer" role? The minimum requirements seem quite low (but a bonus for me!). Any tips or experience would be great!
Nigel
Source - https://www.qantas.com/au/en/about-u...perations.html
I recently finished all of my training (frozen ATPL) and have a lot of debt (discussed elsewhere!), and looked at different ways of kickstarting my flying career. Does anyone know much about how difficult it is to get a shot at the "Qantaslink Trainee First Officer" role? The minimum requirements seem quite low (but a bonus for me!). Any tips or experience would be great!
Nigel
Source - https://www.qantas.com/au/en/about-u...perations.html
If you've done an Aviation degree through a uni that has partnership with Qantas, you can apply for the Qantas Future Pilot Program, which may eventually lead to a FO position in QLink.
If not, then I think your best bet is to build experience through instructing or by flying in GA for a while before the industry recovers. For the latter, be prepared to relocated to remote regions of Australia & work a few temporary jobs (bars, cafes, servos, farms etc) whilst waiting for flying work. Basically the idea is to show them you're persistently keen to fly and willing to do whatever it takes to get a flying job.
The selection process involves a group exercise, a behavioural-based interview based on how you dealt with different situations in life, a few technical questions based on briefing an approach plate (usually the RNAV 24 into Ballina). This all takes place in day 1. I would recommend looking into the 'STAR' method of answering the behavioural-based interview questions - Situation, Task, Action, Result.
On day 2, if you pass the interviews, you'll be given a sim assessment, which is typically on the 767 sim, but this might change based on sim availability/maintenance. It involves some basic instrument flying and air work, as well as a VOR & ILS approach. Get used to reading VOR radials using an RMI only, and flying sector entries using an RMI only (push the head, pull the tail!). It would also be a good idea to brush up on your raw data flying. Configure early for the approach & slow down sufficiently before descending on the glideslope, as the sim you'll be flying will depict a larger aircraft than what you would've been flying, and will have a lot more inertia. Similarly, when intercepting radials/localisers, start turns a bit earlier due to the extra inertia, or else you might end up overshooting your target radial/localiser. Prepare thoroughly by studying the simulator study pack they'll send you prior to attending the interview & know all your attitudes and thrust settings by heart!
I would also buy the QLink interview information/preparation package off Pinstripe solutions & read through all the .pdf files.
It might take a while for you to secure the role, given the big hold file & COVID right now. But with the right mindset & a bit of persistence, you'll succeed.
All the best!
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Go into more debt and get an instructor's rating. Then go and build your hours teaching others. If you wait for recruiting opportunities in an airline even at the regional level you will be waiting for a while. There are currently hundreds of airline pilots driving headers and working at Woolies so the need for new pilots will take some time.
No such thing as a "frozen ATPL" despite what the training provider who sucked $100K+ out of your VET funding allocation told you.
You have "Passed all of your ATPL subjects but do not have an ATPL yet".
In the same way that a PPL holder who has passed all their CPL subjects doesn't hold a "frozen CPL".
You have "Passed all of your ATPL subjects but do not have an ATPL yet".
In the same way that a PPL holder who has passed all their CPL subjects doesn't hold a "frozen CPL".
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I feel you are fishing for some magic answer that will get you in a turboprop/jet next week. Sorry to say mate but there isn’t one. You have a long road ahead if you want to get there, especially with the current state of the industry.
Pack your car up, set up base in Kununurra, Broome or Darwin, knock on doors and start networking. Start as a hangar rat and get a foot in the door. If not, work doing anything you can. Don’t offer to work for free.
It wasn’t unusual for guys/girls to be in town for over a year before they saw any flying work. That’s the way it is, and many have done it before you.
Pack your car up, set up base in Kununurra, Broome or Darwin, knock on doors and start networking. Start as a hangar rat and get a foot in the door. If not, work doing anything you can. Don’t offer to work for free.
It wasn’t unusual for guys/girls to be in town for over a year before they saw any flying work. That’s the way it is, and many have done it before you.
Do you think there is a demand for instructors now? Worried about more debt because I already have way too much debt from all of the training to date.
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No such thing as a "frozen ATPL" despite what the training provider who sucked $100K+ out of your VET funding allocation told you.
You have "Passed all of your ATPL subjects but do not have an ATPL yet".
In the same way that a PPL holder who has passed all their CPL subjects doesn't hold a "frozen CPL".
You have "Passed all of your ATPL subjects but do not have an ATPL yet".
In the same way that a PPL holder who has passed all their CPL subjects doesn't hold a "frozen CPL".
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Haha! But for the poor fellows just out of school any extra bits are adden into a CV. I definitely remembered having this on my CV and some other ridiculous adds on. xD
Having a frozen ATPL is still better than just a CPL. For instance, many guys in my outfit were never upgraded or upgraded later than they could cause they were unable to pass the ATPL exams.
Having a frozen ATPL is still better than just a CPL. For instance, many guys in my outfit were never upgraded or upgraded later than they could cause they were unable to pass the ATPL exams.
I would like to give OP some more serious advice than the definition of frozen ATPL
Objectively the pandemic will be suppressed in H2 2021 in the first world and Q2 2022 worldwide but we have permanently changed behaviour. People will come back to offices but business travel will be lower. Taxation will go up and remain up for a decade eating into leisure and therefore vacation travel budgets. In short pilot recruitment will be suppressed hard for many years.....I was one of the last schoolboys to apply for a BA scholarship. When they stopped them the following year it was going to be for 2 years. I am now near retirement......
But as someone who does no longer earns his living from flying I have seen that a degree, the ability to pass exams and the aptitude to gain qualifications stands an individual in good stead for many other jobs. Many industries will be short of people to make businesses work. Biotech has scientists but often lacks management. Hospital management is crying out for competent people. The list is long. Infrastructure is about to increase exponentially. So consider a change of industry. You can still fly recreationally or even come back in a decade.
Objectively the pandemic will be suppressed in H2 2021 in the first world and Q2 2022 worldwide but we have permanently changed behaviour. People will come back to offices but business travel will be lower. Taxation will go up and remain up for a decade eating into leisure and therefore vacation travel budgets. In short pilot recruitment will be suppressed hard for many years.....I was one of the last schoolboys to apply for a BA scholarship. When they stopped them the following year it was going to be for 2 years. I am now near retirement......
But as someone who does no longer earns his living from flying I have seen that a degree, the ability to pass exams and the aptitude to gain qualifications stands an individual in good stead for many other jobs. Many industries will be short of people to make businesses work. Biotech has scientists but often lacks management. Hospital management is crying out for competent people. The list is long. Infrastructure is about to increase exponentially. So consider a change of industry. You can still fly recreationally or even come back in a decade.
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I would like to give OP some more serious advice than the definition of frozen ATPL
Objectively the pandemic will be suppressed in H2 2021 in the first world and Q2 2022 worldwide but we have permanently changed behaviour. People will come back to offices but business travel will be lower. Taxation will go up and remain up for a decade eating into leisure and therefore vacation travel budgets. In short pilot recruitment will be suppressed hard for many years.....I was one of the last schoolboys to apply for a BA scholarship. When they stopped them the following year it was going to be for 2 years. I am now near retirement......
But as someone who does no longer earns his living from flying I have seen that a degree, the ability to pass exams and the aptitude to gain qualifications stands an individual in good stead for many other jobs. Many industries will be short of people to make businesses work. Biotech has scientists but often lacks management. Hospital management is crying out for competent people. The list is long. Infrastructure is about to increase exponentially. So consider a change of industry. You can still fly recreationally or even come back in a decade.
Objectively the pandemic will be suppressed in H2 2021 in the first world and Q2 2022 worldwide but we have permanently changed behaviour. People will come back to offices but business travel will be lower. Taxation will go up and remain up for a decade eating into leisure and therefore vacation travel budgets. In short pilot recruitment will be suppressed hard for many years.....I was one of the last schoolboys to apply for a BA scholarship. When they stopped them the following year it was going to be for 2 years. I am now near retirement......
But as someone who does no longer earns his living from flying I have seen that a degree, the ability to pass exams and the aptitude to gain qualifications stands an individual in good stead for many other jobs. Many industries will be short of people to make businesses work. Biotech has scientists but often lacks management. Hospital management is crying out for competent people. The list is long. Infrastructure is about to increase exponentially. So consider a change of industry. You can still fly recreationally or even come back in a decade.