Tricks of the trade for flying tailwheel?
Take up gliding first - that will teach you instinctive use of the rudder.
Well it worked for me, on taking up power flying to become a tug pilot too, went solo after 1 hour dual in a J-3 Cub.
Well it worked for me, on taking up power flying to become a tug pilot too, went solo after 1 hour dual in a J-3 Cub.
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Now that I have 10 posts - if Mach1Muppet and Bosi72 want to fill in more time there's an interesting video at
Thank you David
I am still below 10 posts so unable to send the proper link.
ozaeros.net.au/tailwheel/
Your page is certainly great asset covering both theory, practical and regulatory aspect not only for Tailwheel, but Aerobatics and Spins.
Not only locally in Australia, but Internationally recognised as well.
Cheers
Stjepan
I am still below 10 posts so unable to send the proper link.
ozaeros.net.au/tailwheel/
Your page is certainly great asset covering both theory, practical and regulatory aspect not only for Tailwheel, but Aerobatics and Spins.
Not only locally in Australia, but Internationally recognised as well.
Cheers
Stjepan
Don't worry too much about it, remember all pilots flew tail wheels at one time. When I was learning it wasn't even a thing. "We'll take this one today!"
If you think taxy-ing a tail wheel will be fun try taxying a short coupled seaplane without a water rudder!
If you think taxy-ing a tail wheel will be fun try taxying a short coupled seaplane without a water rudder!
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Cheers,
Mach1
Sounds like you were kept busy!
And while all this was going on, all you could hear was what your instructor was saying. You didn’t remember a damn thing anyone on here told you!
But you may be able to use it later!
And while all this was going on, all you could hear was what your instructor was saying. You didn’t remember a damn thing anyone on here told you!
But you may be able to use it later!
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, but seriously the information in this thread was actually of great benefit! getting an understanding of the reason why behind every action i took made life 100% easier, it made sure I didn't embarrass myself! Cheers,
Mach 1
Not so much about T/O and landing and getting an endorsement but TW types may have more noticeable adverse yaw in general flight compared to what most people are now used to.
(I figure because TWs tend to have powerful rudders to assist at low speeds with with take-off landing the designers figure, well the throttle jockeys have to know how to use their feet just to get airborne so let's save ourselves the bother about hiding adverse yaw, the pilot can look after that
).
The consequence in general flight of having noticeable adverse yaw and a nice powerful rudder is, yes you need to use rudder in turns to coordinate but you also need to be gentle and have good feel as it is easy to over do it. (I find initially people don't use rudder and it feels ugly until the light bulb goes off "oh! I need rudder!" and they start using big gobfulls of rudder and it feels ugly!)
I had one 777 captain tell me the hardest thing he found about tailwheels was doing a coordinated climbing turn to the left!
(I figure because TWs tend to have powerful rudders to assist at low speeds with with take-off landing the designers figure, well the throttle jockeys have to know how to use their feet just to get airborne so let's save ourselves the bother about hiding adverse yaw, the pilot can look after that
).The consequence in general flight of having noticeable adverse yaw and a nice powerful rudder is, yes you need to use rudder in turns to coordinate but you also need to be gentle and have good feel as it is easy to over do it. (I find initially people don't use rudder and it feels ugly until the light bulb goes off "oh! I need rudder!" and they start using big gobfulls of rudder and it feels ugly!)
I had one 777 captain tell me the hardest thing he found about tailwheels was doing a coordinated climbing turn to the left!
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A Quick update on what i learnt and what caught me out doing my tailwheel endo.
Gday all, Finished the TWU endorsement today (good idea not to need surgery in between is a good tip), and boy oh boy, what an absolute pleasure to fly an aeroplane with a tailwheel. Dancing on the rudders became oh so apparent when mucking about on the ground, and it can really bite you if you treat the aeroplane poorly. Wheelers..... good in some planes not too fun to start off with in the decathlon, just like you all said a wheeler is an art form in itself, i never truly realised how difficult it could be (thanks to Dave Pilkington for the 1700rpm trick worked an absolute treat!) once you get them right, they are the most satisfying flying you could imagine (in my opinion) finally flying the plane back to hangar like you all said was more true than i could have imagined, understanding tight turns, wind and all of that fun stuff made it a very interesting but satisfying time.
Finally, i want to say thanks to all of those who gave me advice, it was truly worth its weight in gold, i have come to understand there is so much more to learn with a conventional undercarriage, but for now i have my endorsement, so let the fun begin!
Gday all, Finished the TWU endorsement today (good idea not to need surgery in between is a good tip), and boy oh boy, what an absolute pleasure to fly an aeroplane with a tailwheel. Dancing on the rudders became oh so apparent when mucking about on the ground, and it can really bite you if you treat the aeroplane poorly. Wheelers..... good in some planes not too fun to start off with in the decathlon, just like you all said a wheeler is an art form in itself, i never truly realised how difficult it could be (thanks to Dave Pilkington for the 1700rpm trick worked an absolute treat!) once you get them right, they are the most satisfying flying you could imagine (in my opinion) finally flying the plane back to hangar like you all said was more true than i could have imagined, understanding tight turns, wind and all of that fun stuff made it a very interesting but satisfying time.
Finally, i want to say thanks to all of those who gave me advice, it was truly worth its weight in gold, i have come to understand there is so much more to learn with a conventional undercarriage, but for now i have my endorsement, so let the fun begin!
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My first tailwheel endorsement was a Citabria. I wasn't even taught wheelers, just 3 point touchdowns. I subsequently also flew the Decathlon and Scout. I found the 3 pointers kept me out of trouble, although crosswinds were a bit challenging. Maybe it was a Bellanca thing?
When I was in PNG, it was pure magic watching the old hands wheel a Cessna 185 onto a short uphill strip! They made it look so easy.
When I was in PNG, it was pure magic watching the old hands wheel a Cessna 185 onto a short uphill strip! They made it look so easy.
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You will be much better at handling any aircraft now you have a feel for use of controls.
Enjoy the flying, and get Dave Pilkington to give you an aerobatic endorsement.
You will be much better at handling any aircraft now you have a feel for use of controls.
Enjoy the flying, and get Dave Pilkington to give you an aerobatic endorsement.
