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Old 22nd Sep 2020, 02:10
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Cross Border Flights

Given that the SA/VIC border is currently closed can anybody explain the legality of flights going from VIC into SA for training?

Whilst the risk is very low, it is very low for all sorts of other people that would like to cross the border. The bottom line is there is no need to do it so why are they allowed to do it?
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Old 22nd Sep 2020, 02:23
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Originally Posted by dartman2 View Post
Given that the SA/VIC border is currently closed can anybody explain the legality of flights going from VIC into SA for training?

Whilst the risk is very low, it is very low for all sorts of other people that would like to cross the border. The bottom line is there is no need to do it so why are they allowed to do it?
If you're talking about the flights from Mildura to Renmark and Loxton, it appears they are just doing touch and go landings and not stopping and getting out. I would expect they have checked the legality of this and have permission. It's all visible on FR 24.
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Old 22nd Sep 2020, 07:22
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That was the example I was looking at. Even if legal (who knows if it is) it is a bad look if they go u/s across the border particularly when there are actually airfields in VIC...
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Old 23rd Sep 2020, 11:28
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As long as you physically donít step outside the environs of the airport (if you fly in), you are deemed not to have entered SA. Itís been on the SA Health website for quite a while now.
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Old 23rd Sep 2020, 11:51
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Originally Posted by dartman2 View Post
That was the example I was looking at. Even if legal (who knows if it is) it is a bad look if they go u/s across the border particularly when there are actually airfields in VIC...
It doesn't breach any compliance requirements.
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Old 23rd Sep 2020, 13:34
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Here is the exact wording:

10-Exemption for certain arrivals
(1) A person arriving in South Australia on any aircraft or vessel is taken not to arrive in
South Australia for the purposes of this direction if-
(a) in the case of an arrival on an aircraft-the person does not leave the airport
in South Australia;
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Old 24th Sep 2020, 03:41
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surprisingly they havent copied from CAsA's book....thankfully
ie start. A pilot and/or aircarft passenger commits an offence if.....
ending.... this is an offence of strict liabilty etc 15,000 penalty points or life in jail.
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Old 24th Sep 2020, 03:45
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And any CAsA one would run to a dozen pages or more, covering evry eventaulity known to man, and a few of their own. The above SA example is way toooo simple !
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Old 24th Sep 2020, 06:44
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I suggest you look at the actual legislation for SA, particularly Part 5. https://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/LZ...04.30.AUTH.PDF
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