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Old 18th Aug 2020, 00:03
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Citation owner goes to Court to chase Cessna over dud aircraft - VH-MYE

Well known Citation Jet owner Andrew Norbury is scheduled for Court today, case number 'S CI 2013 01595'
Apparently Norbury is trying to sue Cessna for a dud aircraft.

Norbury's wife is also TV on screen diva Lydia Schiavello, of 'Real House wives of Melbourne' reality series.

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What is a dud aircraft?
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The title of the thread is quite misleading.

It should be “Cessna” in court, not the individual taking them to court. The thread title sounds like you’re tarnishing the name of a presumably law-abiding citizen.
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The title of the thread is quite misleading.

It should be “Cessna” in court, not the individual taking them to court. The thread title sounds like you’re tarnishing the name of a presumably law-abiding citizen.

It's quite correct to show who initiated the court case. That doesn't besmirch the applicant at all.
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Citation owner "goes to court" might avoid confusion.
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Did he get a Citation ...
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Did he get a Citation ...
I think that is the point isn't it? He got a Citation and isn't happy about it...
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I think that is the point isn't it? He got a Citation and isn't happy about it..
Then he joins the long list of businessmen who have purchased an aeroplane and been bitterly disappointed. Every pilot seems to know one.
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Maybe he was disappointed to discover that he can't fly direct to LAX in it?
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https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp....70bceed2bf463d
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Dud Citation - In what way was it dud?
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In an article on Monday 17th Herald Sun newspaper there was a picture of the aircraft owner with sub text stating he had been sold a dud aircraft.
Check the CASA civil aircraft register and ring the owner at his published address and ask him.
Then you will have the facts!
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To avoid Rupert's pay-walls, Andrew Norbury's Citation is MYE.
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How very clever of you - we know from the title of the thread!
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The Melbourne Age, 30th August

Take a millionaire architect, a couple of prominent QCs, a Real Housewives of Melbourne star and a $US4.7 million ($6.3 million) jet aircraft claimed to be a dud and what do you have? A Supreme Court trial scheduled to start at 10.30am on Monday.

Andrew Norbury, the millionaire architect and developer, is taking time out from his day job as the husband of Real Housewives of Melbourne star Lydia Schiavello to sue Textron Aviation over a Cessna jet he says is now un-airworthy.

To argue his case Norbury, whose Metier3 firm designed Seven17Bourke, home to Channel Nine and The Age, has enlisted Ian Freckelton QC, the Victoria Police lawyer who has acted for police giving evidence in the Lawyer X royal commission and conducted the City of Melbourne inquiry into sexual assault allegations against former lord mayor Robert Doyle.

US-based Textron has hired Hamish Austin QC, whose expertise in commercial litigation “has been recognised in the Victorian and Australian Senior Counsel rankings of Doyle’s Guide to the Australian Legal Profession”, according to his Victorian Bar profile.

Over the past month the lawyers have been discussing with Supreme Court Justice Peter Riordan if court times need to be rescheduled to hear evidence from US witnesses and if his honour can view the jet under COVID-safe conditions.
Norbury sued after an incident during a descent into Essendon Airport in 2011, when the 2007 Cessna Model 525 Citation CJ1+ jet made two uncommanded left turns, forcing the pilot to execute emergency manoeuvres. He said the incident left the jet defective and within its warranty period, but Cessna declined to replace the aircraft.

Norbury is rarely seen on the Foxtel reality television program, but his wife has boasted of using the private jet to fly to Thredbo every weekend during the ski season.
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Strip’s pretty short at Thredbo....
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Real Housewives hubby ‘nearly died’ when private jet allegedly malfunctioned mid-air

The husband of a popular Real Housewives star is suing the company that made his private jet after a hair-raising near-death experience.
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NCA NewsWireAUGUST 31, 20207:47PMLydia Schiavell and Andrew Norbury at the Australian Open Tennis 2016 Womens Final. Picture: Julie KiriacoudisSource:News Corp Australia

The husband of a popular Real Housewives of Melbourne star is suing the company that made his private jet after he claimed it malfunctioned mid-flight in a terrifying high-altitude scare.

RHOM personality Lydia Schiavello shared the streaming link to the Supreme Court of Victoria hearing with her tens of thousands of social media followers before Monday’s sitting.

The trial concerns her husband Andrew Norbury, who was flying the $4 million plane when it plummeted 2000 feet a second in April 2011, his lawyer Ian Freckelton QC alleged.
Lydia Schiavello shared the streaming link to her husband Andrew Norbury's trial with her Instagram followers.Source:Instagram

The plane was flying normally on a trip from Merimbula to Essendon Airport when it suddenly turned sharply, Mr Freckelton told the court.

In an “extraordinary and life-threatening event” while it was cruising on autopilot, “the aircraft did something that it had never done before,” he said.

“It took a powerful, uncommanded turn to the left.

“One of his passengers was actually thrown out of his seat.”

Over 15 hair-raising minutes he was “able to wrest control of the aeroplane”, Mr Freckelton said.

He said this was happening while the jet was “plummeting toward the ground”.


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“He nearly died,” Mr Freckelton said.
Andrew Norbury is the husband of Real Housewives of Melbourne personality Lydia Schiavello.Source:Instagram

Mr Norbury is an architect, property developer and head of company METIER3, and is worth a reported $50 million.

His purchase of a private plane “allowed everyone to attend meetings in a more timely and efficient way,” his lawyer said.

Mr Norbury purchased the jet in 2007 from Kansas-based Cessna Aircraft Company, which has since been renamed Textron Aircraft Inc.

He is also suing aerospace parts manufacturer Rockwell Collins Inc as part of the suit.
Lydia Schiavello and husband Andrew Norbury share a cozy snap on Ms Schiavello’s Instagram feed.Source:Instagram

The lawyer acting for Textron, Hamish Austin QC, argued it was Mr Norbury’s “basic airmanship” that was at fault in the high-flying drama.

He claimed there had been no reported problems for four years prior to the incident and two test flights afterwards with no identified problems.

He said the flight was “bookended” by two “striking facts”.

“There was never a problem before and there hasn’t been a problem since.

“What it will boil down to though is this: The pilot should have hand-flown the aircraft, instead of leaving it to the autopilot.”
Lydia Schiavello and Andrew Norbury at a Real Housewives of Melbourne event.Source:News Limited

The lawyer acting for Rockwell Collins, Peter Wallis, also argued the pilot’s flying had been at fault.

“Mr Norbury believes that he is very competent pilot,” he said.

“It is human nature … to rate oneself higher than is warranted in all circumstances.”

Mr Norbury is claiming breach of warranty as well as incidental costs.

He is expected to give evidence on Tuesday.

End of article...
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