Citation owner of VH-MYE in court today 18th August
Interesting to read that Norbury considers himself to be a 'competent' pilot.
If I was the judge I would be calling for Norbury's training records from Flight Safety
I find it hard to imagine a pilot with such limited experience qualified for a C525(S) single pilot type rating from Flight Safety, if indeed he did.
I know by observation that 'Chop' at Aus Jet flew with him regulary as a safety pilot
I know from conversations with Norbury at the time, that he had very poor understanding of the FMS, he never flew often enough to come to grips with FMS based flight especially in approach mode.
If I was the judge I would be calling for Norbury's training records from Flight Safety
I find it hard to imagine a pilot with such limited experience qualified for a C525(S) single pilot type rating from Flight Safety, if indeed he did.
I know by observation that 'Chop' at Aus Jet flew with him regulary as a safety pilot
I know from conversations with Norbury at the time, that he had very poor understanding of the FMS, he never flew often enough to come to grips with FMS based flight especially in approach mode.
Nearly died
2,000 feet per second
plummeting toward the ground
passengers thrown out of seat
extraordinary and life-threatening event
able to wrest control of the aeroplane
Only thing missing is the school and hospital that he managed by vast skill to avoid. Never knew the automatics could be so aggressive (thrown out of seat - perhaps too many flutes of Boll) , certainly not in what I flew.
2,000 feet per second
plummeting toward the ground
passengers thrown out of seat
extraordinary and life-threatening event
able to wrest control of the aeroplane
Only thing missing is the school and hospital that he managed by vast skill to avoid. Never knew the automatics could be so aggressive (thrown out of seat - perhaps too many flutes of Boll) , certainly not in what I flew.
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Sounds like the defence lawyers have consulted CASA and ATSB on best way to tackle this. It's all the pilot's fault..! Pilot Error..! I'm sure more facts will come to light as the case goes on, but why should the pilot have been 'hand flying the aircraft, not leaving it to the autopilot'..? What's the point of having an autopilot if you can't use it (or trust it). Wouldn't be the 1st time an autopilot went 'haywire' or are they suggesting he mishandled the recovery..? Something doesn't add up (yet)...
Sounds like the defence lawyers have consulted CASA and ATSB on best way to tackle this. It's all the pilot's fault..! Pilot Error..! I'm sure more facts will come to light as the case goes on, but why should the pilot have been 'hand flying the aircraft, not leaving it to the autopilot'..? What's the point of having an autopilot if you can't use it (or trust it). Wouldn't be the 1st time an autopilot went 'haywire' or are they suggesting he mishandled the recovery..? Something doesn't add up (yet)...
The AP is merely an aid, which is why both of you can’t leave the cockpit to go back and take a pee at the same time.
Never flown one of these, but by all accounts, it's a benign, stable platform that most 'competent and properly trained' pilots should be able to manage.
Struth, even R. Smith flew the sister-ships of this one for years on his own.
He got scared and has not flown the aircraft since. Fair enough.
Sell it and move on.
I don't see why he is taking on Textron and Rockwell-Collins, so many years building a non-existent case, to end up proving he is either incompetent, poorly trained or both.
Struth, even R. Smith flew the sister-ships of this one for years on his own.
He got scared and has not flown the aircraft since. Fair enough.
Sell it and move on.
I don't see why he is taking on Textron and Rockwell-Collins, so many years building a non-existent case, to end up proving he is either incompetent, poorly trained or both.
2000 feet per second, holy cow! How was that figure ever established?, does it have a FDR?
It's a multitude of wealthy wannabes like this that gave the MU2 a very nasty and undeserved reputation it could never shake.
Unbelievable this ever got to court.
It's a multitude of wealthy wannabes like this that gave the MU2 a very nasty and undeserved reputation it could never shake.
Unbelievable this ever got to court.
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Cessna would only grant him a second class rating I believe, even though he’d purchased an aircraft from them.
He had to have a ‘safety’ pilot fly with him for ages in the Kingair and later the Citation even after somehow getting a command rating in Australia.
Make of that what you will!
He had to have a ‘safety’ pilot fly with him for ages in the Kingair and later the Citation even after somehow getting a command rating in Australia.
Make of that what you will!
Flight Safety (Wichita) do not hand out type ratings. I have personally seen the shock and disbelief on pilot's faces when they fail Command training after having bought a new aircraft.
Mind you, you can often pick those whom are heading for problems by their classroom attitude.
In the case of Norbury, the Judge should get Andrew former CP at AusJet into the stand.
CASA still need to start enquiries into why this potentially dangerous situation was not reported. I think it never happened.
Mind you, you can often pick those whom are heading for problems by their classroom attitude.
In the case of Norbury, the Judge should get Andrew former CP at AusJet into the stand.
CASA still need to start enquiries into why this potentially dangerous situation was not reported. I think it never happened.
You guys have all blamed the pilot before the ATSB have had a chance to :-)