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Old 14th Jul 2020, 11:48
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Mr Smith's face was being used in false advertising on Facebook a couple of months ago. I can't recall what they were flogging in the ad but it was obviously a bit suss and fortunately Facebook pulled the ad within a week.

I use AdBlock and don't see ads however some web sites have them embedded into their system like Facebook and they can't be blocked.

With the hosting of web sites, most small time players that want to recover some of their hosting costs wil use a third party ad provider. Often they only have limited control on what ads that third party will throw up on their site. The problem with these third party companies is that they can get brought out, run out of money, hacked, etc and you and your web site will not hear a word about it until the aftermath.

The resolution of this issue rest solely with the web site owner (is it still Internet Brands?) who should be able to put an end to it quickly. However, as I have seen a similar style of ad on Facebook I think the issue is bigger than Pprune and Mr Smith and is a foreign campaign trying to rip off Australians by using "house hold" names illegally to bait the unaware.

Unfortunately PPrune is not hosted in Australia so our feds can't do much about it.




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Old 14th Jul 2020, 12:01
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But I bought Bitcoin because of you!!!!

Yes it sure would piss me off in the same position but you could possibly view it as stopping people betting on racing sand??

All the best with the legal approach - it shouldn’t be, but unfortunately it’s far easier being tough on crime convicting criminals for doing 62km/hr in a 60 zone than anything approaching fraud...

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Old 14th Jul 2020, 12:19
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Doesn't anybody have any common sense any more ? Feel sorry for Dick having to explain that it's a scam. Isn't it bindingly obvious ? Recent UK victims of apparently advertising bit coin include Bear Grylls, Piers Morgan and Philip Schofield. I wouldn't buy a second hand car off any of them just because it was in the media
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Old 14th Jul 2020, 13:20
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Have none of you heard of Adblocker? Sure, some sites you visit will detect you using it and stop you from seeing their content unless you disable it.

Those sites aren't worth visiting, if that is the case. Never seen an ad on Proon, don't expect to either.
Exactly. I use Adblocker and never see ads. I have exactly zero ads on this site when viewing; give it a try. Also, in your browser settings never remember history and use private browsing (Firefox).



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Old 14th Jul 2020, 13:44
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Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie
Have none of you heard of Adblocker? Sure, some sites you visit will detect you using it and stop you from seeing their content unless you disable it.

Those sites aren't worth visiting, if that is the case. Never seen an ad on Proon, don't expect to either.
I was thinking the same thing, I didn't even know there were ads on here??
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Old 14th Jul 2020, 14:17
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SBS won't play with an adblocker. It's a site worth visiting.
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Old 14th Jul 2020, 14:21
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scam

Dick, those ads have been around for at least 2-3 months.
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Old 14th Jul 2020, 14:43
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Scammers like this are usually overseas, so reporting to Scam Watch or the ACCC will have no effect.

Google are slack with filtering scam adverts, so there is not much to do about it.

Irony is that the adverts are usually paid for with stolen credit cards, so eventually Google will be the victim after being hit with a charge-back by their bank.
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Old 14th Jul 2020, 20:39
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Originally Posted by Bodie1
SBS won't play with an adblocker. It's a site worth visiting.
You can always turn the adblocker off or allow ads.
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Old 14th Jul 2020, 21:34
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I have used ad blocker for years and didn't even though there were advertisements on this site...... I have opened up adblocker and it tells me that it has blocked 15 advertisements on this page alone. I didn't even know the site ran advertising


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Old 15th Jul 2020, 01:49
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Has some words to say about NZ banks too....


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Old 15th Jul 2020, 02:48
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I can't recall what they were flogging in the ad but it was obviously a bit suss and fortunately Facebook pulled the ad within a week.
I get daily Bitcoin adverts on Facebook, many allegedly "sponsored" by Dick, Twiggy Forrest etc. Facebook has done nothing to remove Scam and Fraudulent adverts.

Unfortunately PPRuNe is not hosted in Australia so our feds can't do much about it.
Incorrect - ask Google or Facebook:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-...-data/11649356

https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/09/au...enderMode=ie11

And Dick knows it from previous experience a decade ago.
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 03:49
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This is an interesting ABC article which explains the issue.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...oduct/12441920
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 10:04
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You can always turn the adblocker off or allow ad
That's not the point I was making knackers, read through the thread.
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 11:26
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Thanks Tailey, as Styx75's post has prompted my brain cell, the Facebook fake ads I saw were a packaged as some lefty slag against the banks. I haven't seen them for a while on Facebook.

Google and Facebook have bricks and mortar offices in Australia, not sure if Pprune does. Another case against these social media giants is that they have gained both financial benefit and value add to their services by displaying news articles from other outlets without paying for it. After a stink was kicked up by the Australian media groups they initialially agreed to pay the journalists a lousy stipend of a few million dollars to share out, but the journalists hit back saying the value add generated, which is reflected in their mega profits, was actually worth many more tens of millions of dollars. Hope the journalists win this one.
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 12:09
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And another... While reading this thread...


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Old 15th Jul 2020, 23:54
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Dick is not alone:
Twitter (TWTR) accounts belonging to Joe Biden, Bill Gates, Elon Musk and Apple, among other prominent handles, were compromised on Wednesday and posted tweets that appeared to promote a cryptocurrency scam.
The accounts, along with those of former President Barack Obama, Kanye West, Kim Kardashian West, Warren Buffett, Jeff Bezos and Mike Bloomberg, posted similar tweets soliciting donations via Bitcoin to their verified profiles on Wednesday.
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Old 16th Jul 2020, 03:15
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Top news on the BBC.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53425822
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What staggers me is how many of the gullible actually sent money ...amounting to over 100,000 bucks.

What happened to "if it sounds too good to true it most likely isn't" ?????

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Old 17th Jul 2020, 04:18
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Originally Posted by Dave Gittins
What staggers me is how many of the gullible actually sent money ...amounting to over 100,000 bucks.

What happened to "if it sounds too good to true it most likely isn't" ?????

it's identical to any stranger saying "send me $1000 cash and i'll send you back $2000 cash". I'm not sure why anyone would think it's different just because it's Bitcoin.
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