EFB's and kneepad for GA aircraft
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EFB's and kneepad for GA aircraft
About to upgrade my older iPad mini, and am seeking comments from those that may be using the newest iPad's and appropriate knee boards (to see if any issues).
I note from CASA that 20 cm diagonally is still an 'acceptable' screen for an EFB. The iPad mini 5 is listed as 203 mm diagonally. Also seeking comments re the leather iPad holders and whether the clips damage the iPad at all. Am also considering full size iPad. Thanks in advance.
I note from CASA that 20 cm diagonally is still an 'acceptable' screen for an EFB. The iPad mini 5 is listed as 203 mm diagonally. Also seeking comments re the leather iPad holders and whether the clips damage the iPad at all. Am also considering full size iPad. Thanks in advance.
I have IPad mini 4 and use either the Ram yoke mount or the Sky High knee board. The mini lives in the knee board as its permanent cover for day to day life; for flying I just slip the elastic clip through the back and it’s good to go. And to remove for the Ram mount is a 1 second job. Very happy with it. Oh, and I’m AvPlan all the way; happy with the product and service.
IPad mini on a Flight Outfitters kneeboard. iPhone is backup. (Occasionally dust off paper charts and carry them ‘just in case’ for ‘big’ trips.)
I love AvPlan. (I have not tried OzRunways but hear very good reports about it too.)
(Where do you mount/fit/stow the full size iPad Kaz? I’ve always found them to be ‘in the way of something’.)
I love AvPlan. (I have not tried OzRunways but hear very good reports about it too.)
(Where do you mount/fit/stow the full size iPad Kaz? I’ve always found them to be ‘in the way of something’.)
I use the full size iPad on a RAM yoke mount, with a mini as backup (AvPlan on both, also on Android phone as further backup, all on the one subscription) - knee pads never really worked for me. Paper charts in case!
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I've never used a kneeboard before, always had a suction or yoke mount for my iPad mini.
Contemplating switching to a kneeboard to declutter the view outside, but interested in PIREPS from those who fly IFR approaches with a kneeboard. Do you find it easy to read the chart while conducting an approach?
Contemplating switching to a kneeboard to declutter the view outside, but interested in PIREPS from those who fly IFR approaches with a kneeboard. Do you find it easy to read the chart while conducting an approach?
I've never used a kneeboard before, always had a suction or yoke mount for my iPad mini.
Contemplating switching to a kneeboard to declutter the view outside, but interested in PIREPS from those who fly IFR approaches with a kneeboard. Do you find it easy to read the chart while conducting an approach?
Contemplating switching to a kneeboard to declutter the view outside, but interested in PIREPS from those who fly IFR approaches with a kneeboard. Do you find it easy to read the chart while conducting an approach?
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You can't legally use the phone as a backup.
www.casa.gov.au/operations-safety-and-travel/safety-advice/electronic-flight-bag/efb-procedures-and-training
www.casa.gov.au/operations-safety-and-travel/safety-advice/electronic-flight-bag/efb-procedures-and-training
You can only use a PDA for calculations. A smartphone is not appropriate or acceptable as either a primary or backup device.
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Totally agree. When I said "legally", I meant 'CASA legally'! I've never seen a reg that says you can't use a phone as a backup, but then again, the regs are going through much transition at the moment, and CASA's official documentation is certainly lacking when it comes to modern technology usage.
AC 91-17 (replacement for CAAP 233-1) states:
Hardly legally binding!
AC 91-17 (replacement for CAAP 233-1) states:
There should be at least one means of access to backup material available to the pilot in command at the time of flight dispatch. This can be either another EFB (it may belong to another member of the crew), or paper charts and documents required for the sector being flown.