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Old 16th Jan 2020, 13:29
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Originally Posted by Clare Prop View Post
Recognition of prior learning...hmm there will need to be some brave HOOs out there.
Thanks for the article Clare Prop.

I was seriously considering this course come August. Looks like I am one of the lucky ones.
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Old 16th Jan 2020, 17:37
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Only time flown on VH registered aircraft would count? Doesn't/didn't Soar force its students down the RA track to get the RPC first? If so, then I reckon that most students who haven't attained the certificate yet won't be able to get all that much counted towards the required CPL experience, would they? Or can they possibly transfer RA hours to a new operator and get their RPC there?

I hope for current students that they'll do the right thing and sign their logbooks without bringing more shame upon themselves.

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Old 16th Jan 2020, 18:49
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That article is an opinion only and does not mean it is correct.

I would be inclined to think that if it was a 150 hour integrated course, then it would be correct, however itís not; itís 200 and Raaus hours still count.
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Old 16th Jan 2020, 19:30
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I've spent enough time in court rooms over the last couple of years thanks. Enough time to know that you'll get justice in Australia if you can afford to buy it. Enough time to know that if ya gunna commit a criminal offence make it a white collar jobby. Do some body or group over for a couple of mill, spend a year or two in an open door farm, well worth the fraud.
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We are in complete agreement here; postcode justice is real and rich people get the best representation their money can buy. When companies offend they claim legal expenses against tax.
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Old 16th Jan 2020, 19:37
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Originally Posted by Clare Prop View Post
Recognition of prior learning...hmm there will need to be some brave HOOs out there.
However, only training undertaken in VH-registered aircraft with a CASA-accredited instructor would count towards a CPL

Just saw Sparks post...
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Old 16th Jan 2020, 20:41
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However, only training undertaken in VH-registered aircraft with a CASA-accredited instructor would count towards a CPL

Just saw Sparks post...
Reading between the lines here, it may imply that there were instructors who WEREN'T CASA-accredited and that could/would invalidate anything that they have signed off on.
That could be a horrible situation for students.
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Old 16th Jan 2020, 21:20
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just the fact that they drained them of every dollar they possibly could via the Tax Payer!!
That, and significant sums of money from the student pilots own pocket. If this is happening you could suppose that either the training delivered is not up to standard or the student shouldn't be on the course.

The ASQA findings are the tip of the iceberg, they are limited in scope as far as their investigation goes. One hopes there are some well qualified lawyers on this class action, if they know and understand aviation the students and aviation industry are in for a treat.
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Old 16th Jan 2020, 21:25
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Iím waiting to see the words ďFriday faxĒ here somewhere.

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Old 16th Jan 2020, 22:01
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Originally Posted by Okihara View Post
Only time flown on VH registered aircraft would count? Doesn't/didn't Soar force its students down the RA track to get the RPC first? If so, then I reckon that most students who haven't attained the certificate yet won't be able to get all that much counted towards the required CPL experience, would they? Or can they possibly transfer RA hours to a new operator and get their RPC there?

I hope for current students that they'll do the right thing and sign their logbooks without bringing more shame upon themselves.
Most flights flown are in VH registered aircraft. Only the testing / progress flights (first solo) are in RA registered aircraft.
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Old 16th Jan 2020, 23:43
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Originally Posted by Squawk7700 View Post
Iím waiting to see the words ďFriday faxĒ here somewhere.
What does that mean?
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Old 17th Jan 2020, 01:02
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Originally Posted by Superfly Slick Dick View Post
What does that mean?
Usually when the old CASA show cause notices arrive in ones in tray.
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Old 17th Jan 2020, 03:19
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It’s the lawyers equivalent of farting in someone’s face. Send a fax on Friday afternoon 4.45pm. The recipient can’t respond or object or get to court before close of business. It ruins their weekend. I’ve had it done to me by Macquarie Bank - sleazy bastards.
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Old 17th Jan 2020, 04:52
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Simply ignore the fax. F#ck em!
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Old 17th Jan 2020, 08:54
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Some more funny memes appearing here and very relevant to the moment. Iíve got some ideas for a couple of new ones if someone smarter than me wants to contact me :-)

https://www.instagram.com/moorabbinairport/

DW - your PMís are full

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Old 17th Jan 2020, 10:16
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Some of these are VERY FUNNY, great imagination !
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Old 17th Jan 2020, 20:36
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https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...16-p53s7n.html

Just in...
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Old 18th Jan 2020, 11:30
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And we thought the only flooding happening was around Brisbane and the East Coast today, turns out the flood gates are opening down in Moorabbin too!
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Old 18th Jan 2020, 13:09
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And we thought the only flooding happening was around Brisbane and the East Coast today, turns out the flood gates are opening down in Moorabbin too!
... schadenfreude!
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https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...16-p53s7n.html

Just in...
$77,000 and no commercial licence

Poor kid. Such a waste of time and money for a 31 year old student who arguably would want to fast track her training at this point in her life.

I'm amazed by the fact that so many people are willing to pile up so much debt without doing their due diligence. That's especially true at Moorabbin where you have a dozen operators all doing the same thing. I'd expect students to have the awareness to wonder how training is done at other schools and inquire if they suspect something to be amiss with their own operator. This young woman signed up in 2017 which should have given her 2-3 years of time to spot red flags. Going by the many accounts that were given on Soar, I find it surprising that so many students stuck with it.

Soar Aviation still holds a certificate for CASR part 141 flight training, the Civil Aviation Safety Authority said. All flights recorded in a student's logbook remain valid and can be counted towards training elsewhere.
Hard to make sense of CASA's behaviour as a regulator here considering what happened to Glen Buckley's organisation while this Soar circus was allow to unfold in parallel.
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Old 18th Jan 2020, 14:58
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Maybe the Indian CASA FOI was a reason? Nishi or whatever he is called. One of Neel's scummy mates?

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Old 18th Jan 2020, 15:00
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Hopefully his passport is on the watch list
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