Box Hill TAFE drops Aviation Diploma
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What I find incongruous in this whole shameful debacle is a Minister waffling to the media how great this school was while Crawford and his minions were busily dismantling an extremely safe, well run, compliant, training organisation, besmirching its architect, driving him into bankruptcy, along with a whole lot of other people, it’s just bizarre.
There is no doubt, I believe, CAsA and their inane regulations are responsible, driving up the cost of training for no measurable improvement in standards or safety, in fact the exact opposite has occurred.
CAsA of course will escape scrutiny, there’s nobody within the “Cantberra” bubble with the balls to take them on, the Mystic of safety is too strong a hand for them to play, just look at the road toll over Christmas and hardly a murmur from Joe Public, then consider the frenzy when an aircraft kills someone.
There has been a lot of press recently alluding to the incompetence of the ruling elite to administer the countries affairs and finances, a glimmer of light perhaps, but somehow, I think the murky mandarins will prevail.
There is no doubt, I believe, CAsA and their inane regulations are responsible, driving up the cost of training for no measurable improvement in standards or safety, in fact the exact opposite has occurred.
CAsA of course will escape scrutiny, there’s nobody within the “Cantberra” bubble with the balls to take them on, the Mystic of safety is too strong a hand for them to play, just look at the road toll over Christmas and hardly a murmur from Joe Public, then consider the frenzy when an aircraft kills someone.
There has been a lot of press recently alluding to the incompetence of the ruling elite to administer the countries affairs and finances, a glimmer of light perhaps, but somehow, I think the murky mandarins will prevail.
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Who is Puneet Puneet? What happened there?
Thorny is right onto it.
CAsA is a very discriminatory bunch of MFs when it comes to using the regs.
Some commit blue murder and CAsA is disinterested or its a "mate"...nothing happens
If yre an individual or 'small business', and vulnerable, **** and destruction can be upon you.
Many you can ask about that,!..there's lots of Quadrios out there in GA land.
When the upper eshcelon in that bastard place are happy to engage in cronyism and corruption, perverting the course of justice, abusing their power, denying due process and natural justice and covering their arses with false and defamatory statements...what hope have we got.?
SCMo reckons hes going ..'deal with agencies and boards'...with the strength of the bureaucrazy, he'll be like a ping-pong ball off a brick wall. All the very best with that Mr PM.
Ive put a letter togther to him giving some details of whats going on with CAsA but no doubt minders will subvert all that. Chuck in a few more letters y'all
As I was told by some Miniscule in the past.. we're very lucky really, Oz is mostly flat, the wx is mostly good and we have the best safety record in the world.
Yes, in their political Fairy Land...but not out in the real world.
CAsA is a very discriminatory bunch of MFs when it comes to using the regs.
Some commit blue murder and CAsA is disinterested or its a "mate"...nothing happens
If yre an individual or 'small business', and vulnerable, **** and destruction can be upon you.
Many you can ask about that,!..there's lots of Quadrios out there in GA land.
When the upper eshcelon in that bastard place are happy to engage in cronyism and corruption, perverting the course of justice, abusing their power, denying due process and natural justice and covering their arses with false and defamatory statements...what hope have we got.?
SCMo reckons hes going ..'deal with agencies and boards'...with the strength of the bureaucrazy, he'll be like a ping-pong ball off a brick wall. All the very best with that Mr PM.
Ive put a letter togther to him giving some details of whats going on with CAsA but no doubt minders will subvert all that. Chuck in a few more letters y'all
As I was told by some Miniscule in the past.. we're very lucky really, Oz is mostly flat, the wx is mostly good and we have the best safety record in the world.
Yes, in their political Fairy Land...but not out in the real world.
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International student, driving whilst drunk, killed a pedestrian. Skipped the country. Has virtually destroyed his own mental and physical health in his bid to hide. Considering Australia's absolute pathetic sentencing record he would have done about 18 months. Has spent years avoiding 'justice'
perhaps try 8 to 10 years before he absconded.
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perhaps try 8 to 10 years before he absconded.
Puneet Puneet absconded before sentencing. The fact that he was allowed bail between leading guilty and sentencing suggests he wasn't facing an enormous sentence.
In 2008, at age 19, driving with only a learners permit, with a blood alcohol level of 0.165, at 150kph on the edge of the Melbourne CBD in what was a 60 zone and is now a 40 zone, Puneet^2 crashed his car, killing 19-year-old Dean Hofstee and seriously injured 20-year-old Clancy Coker.
He pleaded guilty to culpable driving (essentially manslaughter with a vehicle), then while on bail awaiting sentencing, having surrendered his own passport, he buggered off back to India using a mates passport.
He has now spent 11 years in India resisting extradition for sentencing and for prosecution on misuse of travel documents.
He claims various major ailments and insists he cannot get justice in Australia because of racism, that he would be killed in Australia, and has quite possibly already sat around in Indian prison system since he was arrested shortly before his wedding at age 24 for longer than he would have been imprisoned in Australia, had he done the right thing.
Now aged 30, his problems just keep getting worse. There is little sympathy for him here in Melbourne...
https://www.theage.com.au/world/indi...213-hv5i8.html
https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...17-ghpq85.html
https://www.news.com.au/news/nationa...82c656651d677d
Claims he will be killed if extradited.
See also: Malka Leifer...
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perhaps you need to get to court more often.
the average sentence for culpable causing death in Victoria in 2017-2018 was 7 years 8 months.
https://www.sentencingcouncil.vic.go...-causing-death
parole might be available when 2/3 sentence has been completed, especially if convicted is released on a community corrections order as well.
the aggravated circumstances in your example would attract 8-10 in my view.
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Nonsense...I don’t know why he was granted bail but suggest it was because he was not judged to be a fight risk by VicPol ( no passport), hid young age just outside of the age to be sentenced as a minor, and the then presumption of bail as one of the few rights we have under the law (innocent unruly proven guilty).
attitudes towards culpable driving have hardened significantly in recent years...nothing much happened at all in the early 1960s when I was a young idiot on the road. Everyone drank, no RBT, had to prove drunk, not much more than a loss of licence if actually caught.
no excuses, just an explanation.
attitudes towards culpable driving have hardened significantly in recent years...nothing much happened at all in the early 1960s when I was a young idiot on the road. Everyone drank, no RBT, had to prove drunk, not much more than a loss of licence if actually caught.
no excuses, just an explanation.
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perhaps you need to get to court more often.
So 2/3 of 7 years is 4 years and 8 months which is a bit different to 8-10 years.
The justice system in this country is a pathetic joke, as I'm sure we'll find out real quick here.
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Hundreds of students affected by the decision to revoke Soar Aviation’s registered training organisation status will not have to restart their commercial pilot licence training from scratch.
The Victorian-based flight training school, which has bases at Moorabbin and Bankstown in Sydney, was informed this month of the decision by the Australian Skills Quality Authority.
Box Hill Institute, which had partnered with Soar to deliver a diploma of aviation (commercial pilot licence), will also be stripped of the authority to offer that course from February 24.
Despite concerns about the quality of the training, an ASQA spokesman assured students their efforts to date would not go unrecognised.
“Students who have completed units of competency will be issued a statement of attainment by Box Hill Institute which will be recognised if they enrol with a new RTO that has the same aviation qualification/s on its scope,” said the spokesman.
The Civil Aviation Safety Authority also confirmed the students’ flying hours recorded in their logbooks would not be invalid as a result of Soar’s predicament.
However, only training undertaken in VH-registered aircraft with a CASA-accredited instructor would count towards a CPL.
Soar Aviation this week listed a number of its aircraft for sale. A spokeswoman said the sales were part of a realignment of the company’s fleet and workforce, following on from the ASQA decision.
The company has sought an internal review of the decision and rejected claims it was non-*compliant.
In just over three years of operation in partnership with Box Hill Institute, more than 900 students enrolled in the two-year CPL course but fewer than 20 were recorded as graduating.
Robyn Ironside
The Victorian-based flight training school, which has bases at Moorabbin and Bankstown in Sydney, was informed this month of the decision by the Australian Skills Quality Authority.
Box Hill Institute, which had partnered with Soar to deliver a diploma of aviation (commercial pilot licence), will also be stripped of the authority to offer that course from February 24.
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Despite concerns about the quality of the training, an ASQA spokesman assured students their efforts to date would not go unrecognised.
“Students who have completed units of competency will be issued a statement of attainment by Box Hill Institute which will be recognised if they enrol with a new RTO that has the same aviation qualification/s on its scope,” said the spokesman.
The Civil Aviation Safety Authority also confirmed the students’ flying hours recorded in their logbooks would not be invalid as a result of Soar’s predicament.
However, only training undertaken in VH-registered aircraft with a CASA-accredited instructor would count towards a CPL.
Soar Aviation this week listed a number of its aircraft for sale. A spokeswoman said the sales were part of a realignment of the company’s fleet and workforce, following on from the ASQA decision.
The company has sought an internal review of the decision and rejected claims it was non-*compliant.
In just over three years of operation in partnership with Box Hill Institute, more than 900 students enrolled in the two-year CPL course but fewer than 20 were recorded as graduating.
Robyn Ironside
Recognition of prior learning...hmm there will need to be some brave HOOs out there.
Clare Prop, I don't think the quality of their training was necessarily the question here, just the fact that they drained them of every dollar they possibly could via the Tax Payer!!
I'd advise anyone here reading to grab their Log Book and Training Records from Soar/Box Hill ASAP, these have a tendency to go missing when Flying Schools go belly up...
Also make sure they've been checked and if required have been signed by a valid instructor to certify the hours as being true and correct (Is that still a thing these days?!)
Also, to be perfectly clear, I also don't believe their training was necessarily that great either!! Doesn't mean the Students that have trained there aren't any good though.
I'd advise anyone here reading to grab their Log Book and Training Records from Soar/Box Hill ASAP, these have a tendency to go missing when Flying Schools go belly up...
Also make sure they've been checked and if required have been signed by a valid instructor to certify the hours as being true and correct (Is that still a thing these days?!)
Also, to be perfectly clear, I also don't believe their training was necessarily that great either!! Doesn't mean the Students that have trained there aren't any good though.