Private Flight To Be Banned.
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I’m afraid it’s darker than you think. Read the “extinction rebellion” website. They call for an “emergency response”. At present they engage in peaceful protests. My concern is that they have the potential to turn violent. If that happens, we may face a threat from climate change Luddites and we are sitting targets.
I base that concern on the direction that animal activists have taken - destroying businesses, vandalism and harassing farmers. I judge “extinction rebellion” could go the same way.
I base that concern on the direction that animal activists have taken - destroying businesses, vandalism and harassing farmers. I judge “extinction rebellion” could go the same way.
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He's right!
I always enjoy your posts Sunfish, and I am but a mere PPL and aircraft owner, but I know the truth when I read it and you are telling it as it really is. No conspiracy theories or tinfoil hats necessary! The scenario you tongue-in-cheek described could well be close to a reality if those in power keep going the way they're heading. The vast majority of the public don't really understand the role of aviation in this country other than to jump on a plane and have the convenience of fast inter-city travel. The real grass roots side of it, the men and women doing the hard yards in the bush and mustering cattle, or the folks flying tourists around Uluru or the Kimberley, or the heroes of the RFDS and other EMS services are generally the ones most people never get to see, unless there's an accident... then the media is all over it like white on rice!
This country is BIG! It screams for aviation! The tyranny of distance really comes alive here because everything is just so far away, unless you are just flying up and down the eastern sea board. The politicians are the puppet masters pulling CASA's strings. Sunfish is absolutely correct that the change has to be made at the highest level; being annoyed with CASA and their processes is a common pastime but it won't change a damned thing.
Personally, I despise politics because I can see through the spin and the false promises and it just never changes. Unfortunately the media has a lot to answer for as well due to sensationalistic reporting of accidents and near misses, all of which contribute to Joe Public having a negative image of aviation. I was attempting to get my neighbours to come up for a private scenic flight with me in my aircraft and the comment I got back was, "Oh no! Those little planes fall out of the sky all the time! We're not going in one of those!" Hmmmm? Wonder where they got that idea from?
Mainstream aviation is secure here (e.g. the major airlines) but GA is dying the death of a thousand cuts and this country needs to stand up for it otherwise we'll blink and it really will be gone unless major reform happens, and happens soon.
Just my 2 cents worth!
This country is BIG! It screams for aviation! The tyranny of distance really comes alive here because everything is just so far away, unless you are just flying up and down the eastern sea board. The politicians are the puppet masters pulling CASA's strings. Sunfish is absolutely correct that the change has to be made at the highest level; being annoyed with CASA and their processes is a common pastime but it won't change a damned thing.
Personally, I despise politics because I can see through the spin and the false promises and it just never changes. Unfortunately the media has a lot to answer for as well due to sensationalistic reporting of accidents and near misses, all of which contribute to Joe Public having a negative image of aviation. I was attempting to get my neighbours to come up for a private scenic flight with me in my aircraft and the comment I got back was, "Oh no! Those little planes fall out of the sky all the time! We're not going in one of those!" Hmmmm? Wonder where they got that idea from?
Mainstream aviation is secure here (e.g. the major airlines) but GA is dying the death of a thousand cuts and this country needs to stand up for it otherwise we'll blink and it really will be gone unless major reform happens, and happens soon.
Just my 2 cents worth!
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Battery technology is advancing rapidly. Significant improvements in specific energy and safety will see electric propulsion become the norm for road vehicles and light aircraft within a few years.
But there is no point in electric vehicles unless the electricity is low carbon. Wind and solar power are coming down in price and will make a major contribution but the so called "renewables" will not meet the increased demand for electricity on their own. New generation nuclear technology (such as this https://www.moltexenergy.com/) will fill the gap and enable us to stop using fossil fuels for electricity generation.
Climate change luddites believe that the planet can only be saved by giving things up and massively changing lifestyles. They don't believe that new technologies will enable us to continue doing the things we want (such as driving cars and flying aircraft) without destroying the planet.
But there is no point in electric vehicles unless the electricity is low carbon. Wind and solar power are coming down in price and will make a major contribution but the so called "renewables" will not meet the increased demand for electricity on their own. New generation nuclear technology (such as this https://www.moltexenergy.com/) will fill the gap and enable us to stop using fossil fuels for electricity generation.
Climate change luddites believe that the planet can only be saved by giving things up and massively changing lifestyles. They don't believe that new technologies will enable us to continue doing the things we want (such as driving cars and flying aircraft) without destroying the planet.
Good post fnqflier. As it is.
The really rotten regulator, CAsA /Cretins Against Sensible Aviation HAS TO GO if GA and PVT flying is to survive,
And all those with an axe to grind...put in your submission to [email protected]
If you dont let them know about the CAsA buggery going on they'll never know for the reguired changes need.
The really rotten regulator, CAsA /Cretins Against Sensible Aviation HAS TO GO if GA and PVT flying is to survive,
And all those with an axe to grind...put in your submission to [email protected]
If you dont let them know about the CAsA buggery going on they'll never know for the reguired changes need.
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Ah Godwin's law holds true once again!
To be honest I am less concerned about how action (or inaction) on climate change will alter society than I am about grown ass adults who think a 16 year old disabled kid is the reincarnation of Hitler and accuse THEM of spreading moral panic.
To be honest I am less concerned about how action (or inaction) on climate change will alter society than I am about grown ass adults who think a 16 year old disabled kid is the reincarnation of Hitler and accuse THEM of spreading moral panic.
Well, Hitler was my thought at the very beginning of this conversation after reading post #11 (https://www.pprune.org/newreply.php?...ply&p=10632614).
Living in Poland where Germans set-up Auschwitz and many other, less known death camps I do not find such comments as the one quoted below funny.
But hey, the way Germans dealt with overpopulation of the East and need for a "way to preserve a liveable habitat (...) and to somehow check the exploding human population." (aka Lebensraum). They even identified who is "the plague". A bit narrower than ramble on .
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The ONLY way to preserve a liveable habitat and the wafer thin 15000ft layer of breathable air around the planet is to somehow check the exploding human population. We are a plague. The continual drive for “Growth and Development” is INSANE and driven by short term greed."
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I think the best way to de-Hitlerise this discussion is to observe that the worst excesses of human behavior towards other humans have been instigated by people who have been able to convince their followers that they are in possession of the "revealed truth" contained in some grand mystical theory and that therefore their beastliness is sanctified by the "the ends justify the means" argument.
German Fascism, Russian (pre WII) and Cambodian Communism are three examples of religions that did this, killing millions for their version of the greater good. Like others, I detect in Greta Thunberg that same messianic zeal that is quite capable of perverting Environmentalism into a homicidal, dictatorial, depopulation movement.
If I am right, the next stage is to proscribe all non carbon neutral recreational activities.
German Fascism, Russian (pre WII) and Cambodian Communism are three examples of religions that did this, killing millions for their version of the greater good. Like others, I detect in Greta Thunberg that same messianic zeal that is quite capable of perverting Environmentalism into a homicidal, dictatorial, depopulation movement.
If I am right, the next stage is to proscribe all non carbon neutral recreational activities.
If I am right, the next stage is to proscribe all non carbon neutral recreational activities.
This thread surely can’t run for much longer!
As stated earlier, presumably he possesses an aviation medical and possibly and ASIC card. Clearly that system is working well !
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The saddest thing about caged zoo and circus animals is that when the doors to their cages are left open, they won’t leave, or if they do, they are easily enticed back into captivity. not being able to imagine anything better outside their comfortable cage.
Some of you remind me of said animals.
Some of you remind me of said animals.
I think the best way to de-Hitlerise this discussion is to observe that the worst excesses of human behavior towards other humans have been instigated by people who have been able to convince their followers that they are in possession of the "revealed truth" contained in some grand mystical theory and that therefore their beastliness is sanctified by the "the ends justify the means" argument.
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The greens are already focused on shutting down most air travel. Yet you think they will still allow you to fly your bug smashers?
The first “revealed truth” is that greens hate air travel. The second is that politicians will look for scapegoats and others to sacrifice at the greenies altar.
I would have thought you will be the first group thrown under the bus by politicians as they struggle to keep the eco-terrorists in check.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envi...ct_of_aviation
The first “revealed truth” is that greens hate air travel. The second is that politicians will look for scapegoats and others to sacrifice at the greenies altar.
I would have thought you will be the first group thrown under the bus by politicians as they struggle to keep the eco-terrorists in check.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envi...ct_of_aviation
The greens are already focused on shutting down most air travel. Yet you think they will still allow you to fly your bug smashers?
The first “revealed truth” is that greens hate air travel. The second is that politicians will look for scapegoats and others to sacrifice at the greenies altar.
I would have thought you will be the first group thrown under the bus by politicians as they struggle to keep the eco-terrorists in check.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envi...ct_of_aviation
The first “revealed truth” is that greens hate air travel. The second is that politicians will look for scapegoats and others to sacrifice at the greenies altar.
I would have thought you will be the first group thrown under the bus by politicians as they struggle to keep the eco-terrorists in check.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envi...ct_of_aviation
If the Greens hadn't voted against the original ETS, a sensible, market based mechanism with bipartisan support (until the LNP decided bipartisanship didnt play well in the party room), we probably wouldn't be having this discussion. Instead we got an ill conceived compromise by an unpopular pop-up PM that never had time to be judged on it's results... The next unpopular pop-up PM dismantled it for the sake of ideology and a (largely unrealised) reduction in power bills. Both sides pissed a lot of people my age off. The dysfunction, hoodwinking and navel-gazing in our system will drive people to radical alternatives like the Greens (or Pauline) faster than Greta ever will. At their own peril of course, but people rarely vote in their own best interests anyway.
I think the best way to de-Hitlerise this discussion is to observe that the worst excesses of human behavior towards other humans have been instigated by people who have been able to convince their followers that they are in possession of the "revealed truth" contained in some grand mystical theory and that therefore their beastliness is sanctified by the "the ends justify the means" argument.
The climate change religion is just the latest way for the usual suspects to pursue their agenda.
And as usual there is a percentage of people who are happy to go along with the group-think.
in fact, even questioning it is heresy! Like any other religion.
Thankfully before too much longer it will be exposed for the fraud that it is.
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Correct.
The climate change religion is just the latest way for the usual suspects to pursue their agenda.
And as usual there is a percentage of people who are happy to go along with the group-think.
in fact, even questioning it is heresy! Like any other religion.
Thankfully before too much longer it will be exposed for the fraud that it is.
The climate change religion is just the latest way for the usual suspects to pursue their agenda.
And as usual there is a percentage of people who are happy to go along with the group-think.
in fact, even questioning it is heresy! Like any other religion.
Thankfully before too much longer it will be exposed for the fraud that it is.
This has been good entertainment for the night.
And, yes.
You should stop getting your news from the ABC and The Project.