New Radio Procedures at/near Ballina - CASA
the FS system still exists
and the operators are also qualified ATCs who can in the same shift operate a control sector.
Mangalore should change all
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Lemme see now....IF we 'increase the size' from 10 to 15nm, then that will just 'that' much more time to 'see and avoid'.......
i.e. 5nm @ 120kt = 150 seconds extra.
There! That's Dun !
Now....where's me coffee..??
Cheeerrrsss.....
i.e. 5nm @ 120kt = 150 seconds extra.
There! That's Dun !
Now....where's me coffee..??
Cheeerrrsss.....
The situation at Ballina is bordering on criminal negligence. I Was hopeful now that Qf main line are flying there, perhaps someone in CASA/ ASA might see fit to change something. But yeah ... Thank God for those extra 5 nm. I feel safer already.
Griffo, I was always uncomfortable with 10nm for CTAFs. Too close/late for "popups". 15nm is better. I don't understand the 30nm from Gold Coast bit; if you're not in CTA, why not keep the 15nm? Is Joe Bloggs expected to have the CG VOR on his GPS/2nd NAV? Confusing. If you're in CTA who cares where the BA is? ATC will "clear you to leave, call the CAGRO at 15nm", wouldn't they?
Put in a tower.
Put in a tower.
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There are times when I wonder if the old AFIZ and MBZ were better than that which has replaced them.
Your comments, GRIFFO?
Your comments, GRIFFO?
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Aye Aye Cap'n.
Tower is the 'ultimate' solution....aka BME.... Class 'D'?.
However, Mr Pinky has a point.
The CAGRO ( Ex 'Elderly FSO / ATC') a la old 'AFIZ', is cheaper, and it worked OK for a loong time with those 'pesky' FK-28 thingies.
Call at 30nm inbound, or transiting.....
About 7 mins from the '30nm call' to the CIRA (FK-28's) - having rec'd 'A' or whatever, (which 'we' didnt have in 'those' days), and be given ONLY 'conflicting / pertinent traffic', means that, with ATIS, the talking is kept to the minimum.
Barons etc - about 10mins, and '210's about 12 mins.
This worked OK, even with sometimes 'multiple' FK-28 ops all converging at the same time......
T'was a 'thing' to behold....as to who streaked across the front windows first.............
However, it ain't gunna happen.
Tower is 'BEST'; you can wish for....so ya got an extra 5nm.....BIG DEAL!!!
Tower is the 'ultimate' solution....aka BME.... Class 'D'?.
However, Mr Pinky has a point.
The CAGRO ( Ex 'Elderly FSO / ATC') a la old 'AFIZ', is cheaper, and it worked OK for a loong time with those 'pesky' FK-28 thingies.
Call at 30nm inbound, or transiting.....
About 7 mins from the '30nm call' to the CIRA (FK-28's) - having rec'd 'A' or whatever, (which 'we' didnt have in 'those' days), and be given ONLY 'conflicting / pertinent traffic', means that, with ATIS, the talking is kept to the minimum.
Barons etc - about 10mins, and '210's about 12 mins.
This worked OK, even with sometimes 'multiple' FK-28 ops all converging at the same time......
T'was a 'thing' to behold....as to who streaked across the front windows first.............
However, it ain't gunna happen.
Tower is 'BEST'; you can wish for....so ya got an extra 5nm.....BIG DEAL!!!
Tower is the 'ultimate' solution....aka BME.... Class 'D'?.
BME has E over D. The LCDs/indulgees flying in E across the top of BME are merely “encouraged” to contact the tower. It’s a recipe for disaster!
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Aye 'Leadie', Oi rekkon he'll have a BIG ONE of 'those' when he sees the 1,500AGL 'E' (a la East Coast, announced today...) extended to 'Where he operates'......
It seems that the prediction of TCAS being the final / dependable traffic info (FIS) by default is 'a
'cummin TROO......
Cheeerrrsss....
It seems that the prediction of TCAS being the final / dependable traffic info (FIS) by default is 'a
'cummin TROO......
Cheeerrrsss....
Brilliant!
Pure genius.
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yeah if its too dangerous for you to fly in there then simply don't fly there !
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I didn't say there would be a TWR there, just that the OAR would put some pressure on ASA to provide something better. My guess is that as well as the OAR it will be political pressure for a class D zone. (remote maybe?) Time will tell.
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I doubt that will happen without significant changes. Towers cost $$ and you can be sure that ASA don't want to spend any. What is the safest outcome for BNA.
As for MNG, an old style MBZ would be worth a try.
As for MNG, an old style MBZ would be worth a try.
