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Old 7th Oct 2019, 08:26
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 08:35
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Originally Posted by kaz3g View Post
Folks,
The makeup of the new RRAT is proving to be quite aggressive, as far as CASA and ATSB are concerned ---- will it make any difference ----- with this Minister??
At least it is better than the RRAT not being there.
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PS: Wonderful example of : Lies, Damned lies, and statistics.
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Old 9th Oct 2019, 06:48
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A few more details of the Committees findings in this link, for those who donít have the inclination to listen to the full enquiry:

ATSB escapes RRAT Hearing with No Recommendations - Australian Flying
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Old 9th Oct 2019, 23:44
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It's a testament to the efforts of Ben Morgan at AOPA, amongst others. Can I encourage GA businesses to please join AOPA and support the advocacy efforts driven by a strong committee of experienced GA volunteers.
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Old 10th Oct 2019, 06:25
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Not only Morgan. Leafroller. Some serious input to certain parliamentary personages from others
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Old 10th Oct 2019, 07:25
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Hummm. The ATSB get off virtually scot free, although there were dubious statistics and glaring omissions regarding pilot qualification and behaviour and CASA get it in the neck from an inquiry that wasnít even about them??? Hard to take anything too seriously in any of that!
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Old 10th Oct 2019, 08:32
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Originally Posted by Clearedtoreenter View Post
Hummm. The ATSB get off virtually scot free, although there were dubious statistics and glaring omissions regarding pilot qualification and behaviour and CASA get it in the neck from an inquiry that wasnít even about them??? Hard to take anything too seriously in any of that!
Folks,
The ATSB treatment of "statistics" was a complete nonsense, as were certain subsequent statements emanating from CASA.
You simply cannot draw statistical conclusions from just two accidents over a longish period of time.
What has happened to Angel Flight reveals personal prejudices of some in ATSB and CASA, and little more.
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Old 10th Oct 2019, 09:03
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Kaz: For future reference, being whipped with wet lettuce is not the same as being ‘heavied’.
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Old 10th Oct 2019, 11:37
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Originally Posted by Lead Balloon View Post
Kaz: For future reference, being whipped with wet lettuce is not the same as being Ďheaviedí.
True, but itís encouraging at any time to see the Government scrutinise itís agencies for pernicious behaviour.
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Old 11th Oct 2019, 01:00
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Originally Posted by Stickshift3000 View Post
True, but it’s encouraging at any time to see the Government scrutinise it’s agencies for pernicious behaviour.
Stick,
Might I suggest you tally up all the various inquiries into CASA from Parliamentary committees through to Royal Commission, over the years, including the longest ever Parliamentary inquiry since federation in 1901, over 300 sitting days (ended 1996) ---- and what long term difference has it made to the "Iron Ring" or what was known in DCA days as the Airstapo, to the benefit of aviation, ALL aviation, not just GA ????
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Old 11th Oct 2019, 08:21
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If you think those in CAsA pay any heed to comments from RRATs etc, then you are sadly mistaken.
WGAFF in (non) Av House, Cantberra.? Its just like water off a duck's back
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From the current (14 October 19) Senate Notice Paper: https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary...t_Notice_Paper

BUSINESS LISTED FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION

On 16 October 2019

Business of the Senate—Notices of motion

Notice given 29 July 2019

1 Senator Patrick: To move—That the Civil Aviation (Community Service Flights- Conditions on Flight Crew Licences) Instrument 2019, made under the Civil Aviation Safety Regulations 1998, be disallowed [F2019L00134].

Four sitting days remain, including today, to resolve the motion or the instrument will be deemed to have been disallowed.
Four days to go...
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Old 16th Oct 2019, 00:59
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Senator Patrick will formally move the disallowance motion this afternoon (Wednesday 16 October). May be worth watching: https://www.aph.gov.au/News_and_Even...B28397}&type=1
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Now postponed until tomorrow (Thursday 17 October).

Only two sitting days to go, including today, until the instrument will be automatically disallowed if the motion is not moved and rejected.

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Old 17th Oct 2019, 05:14
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Senator Patrick’s disallowance motion is due to be put at around 1530 ESST. May be worth watching: https://www.aph.gov.au/News_and_Even...-9CF141115FD2}
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Old 17th Oct 2019, 05:32
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On now (1532 ESST).
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Old 17th Oct 2019, 05:54
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Neither the government nor the opposition is supporting the motion. F*ck.
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Old 17th Oct 2019, 06:06
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Defeated. 12 ayes and 29 nos.

The Laborials showing leadership as usual.

Vomit.
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Sen. Patrick spoke well and with conviction. Shame about the result.
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Vote the b****** out of office.
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