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Mooney 2POB missing west of Coffs Harbour

Old 20th Sep 2019, 07:28
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Mooney 2POB missing west of Coffs Harbour

Departed Murwillumbah at 0630 and failed to arrive Taree. Westpac 3 and AMSAR jet doing circuits near high ground of Mt Moombil comms tower where last signal received.
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Aircraft missing west of Coffs Harbour

A plane is missing after it faded off the radar west of Coffs Harbour on the NSW north coast.

Its understood the light plane was bound for Taree.

Police say they were advised the aircraft was missing about 11.45am on Friday. Its last known communications were about 7.30am.

"It's unknown how many people were on board," a NSW Police spokeswoman told AAP.
https://7news.com.au/travel/air-avia...Ie9X8ErV6HLflg

SSR aircraft is looking in this area west of Coffs Harbour


Looking at FR24, it looks like VH-DJU dropped of FR24 at this location around 0933 UTC



https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...h-dju#222accba

Edit: Aircraft was last recorded at 3,200 feet and descending, their is terrain at 3,400 feet around the area of last known.....
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Old 20th Sep 2019, 07:50
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FR24 data showing VH DJU at 200 feet below terrain possible CFIT 600m SW if Mt Moombil, fingers crossed. MM.
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Old 21st Sep 2019, 00:35
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Crash site of missing plane found in northern NSW, AMSA says

Crash site of the Mooney located... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-...n-nsw/11535440
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Looking at some discussion on Facebook on this, and the conversation pretty quickly went to how "difficult" ATC makes it to get clearance through C and D at Coffs, "forcing" pilots over tiger country.
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Originally Posted by BigPapi View Post
Looking at some discussion on Facebook on this, and the conversation pretty quickly went to how "difficult" ATC makes it to get clearance through C and D at Coffs, "forcing" pilots over tiger country.
Where on facebook?

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Old 21st Sep 2019, 06:05
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Police have recovered two bodies (believed to be father & son) from the crash site.

DF.
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Looking at some discussion on Facebook on this, and the conversation pretty quickly went to how "difficult" ATC makes it to get clearance through C and D at Coffs, "forcing" pilots over tiger country.
Class E over the top will fix that quick smart.
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Old 21st Sep 2019, 07:11
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Now you know why I called the East Coast the dead zone.
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Now you know why I called the East Coast the dead zone.
Meanwhile in the audience, at least one rolled his eyes and groaned.
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Old 21st Sep 2019, 08:10
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I wonder if this is Bindooks “ giant roadblock airspace”
again.
Was the pilot attempting to keep out of the C airspace?

Most pilots would prefer to fly coastal if the road block was not there!

I have met pilots who don’t have the confidence to request and comply with a clearance through C!
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Old 21st Sep 2019, 08:15
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Oh FFS, 2 people have died only 24 hours ago and already the usual suspects have hijacked another thread to drive their own agenda.
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Old 21st Sep 2019, 08:21
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Come On. Aren’t we supposed to learn from such accidents?

Airservices have a ministerial directive to provide a terminal radar service in C over D. They ignore it at their peril.
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I have been through Coffs Harbour control area at least 100 times, never had anything but polite and courteous controllers happy to do anything they could.

Probably 10 of these transits were in a 50 knot 2 stroke ultralight aircraft.....

Just tell them what you are flying, where you are, what you want to do and where you are going. They will lead you step-by-step through the entire transit knowing that it is much safer for you to pass on by them to go inland. Many other times I transited in much faster aircraft but with the same hospitality expressed including a couple of times strong recommendations from the tower do not continue, land and have a coffee for a few hours break and wait for the weather to clear.

I adamantly say that their local knowledge and advice saved my life once when I wanted to push on thinking I knew better and they told me you will only get a few minutes past the airport and made a wall of water and they were right. You cannot beat local knowledge (and a weather radar before we had them on iPads).

I am happy to tell anyone this, no matter how little experience you have, there is nothing wrong or to be scared of contacting these guys, they are more than happy to help you at any time.
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Old 21st Sep 2019, 08:32
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I have been through Coffs Harbour control area at least 100 times, never had anything but polite and courteous controllers happy to do anything they could.
Me too! I have also stepped down under the steps and skirted the edge just because I could. Easy peasy.
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mcoats. Did you put in a VFR plan first?

Did you ask for a clearance above 5000’?
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Aren’t we supposed to learn from such accidents?
Learn? Learn what?? At this stage, the only thing that is known is that a plane has crashed but you're on here crapping on about your ATC crusade.
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There but for luck, His grace or any number of reasons, most of us were fortunate.

Right now all that is actually known is that a family has likely lost both a father and a son.
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Originally Posted by The name is Porter View Post
Class E over the top will fix that quick smart.
Assuming you can remain VMC over the top.

Sadly not the first aircraft lost in that area in less than ideal conditions.
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Originally Posted by Dick Smith View Post
mcoats. Did you put in a VFR plan first?

Did you ask for a clearance above 5000’?

Back in the ultralight days there was no flight plans, just hook it along at 1,000 coastal then go inland around the steps with a few hundred feet clearance on the hills. When the cloud was too low or the banana crops were high then it was impossible and you would have to either ask permission or turn back, but you could make this decision pretty easily flying at 50 kn, usually with a 20 kn headwind so you have plenty of time to evaluate what you were doing and plenty of time to prepare to key the old ICOM handheld and request clearance.

Fast track to more modern times and you just contact Brisbane Centre 50 miles north or south and request a clearance at your desired altitude and yjey turn you onto the tower when you get closer. Really easy and everyone is accommodating.

I have never really tried flying over at higher than 5000 because usually there is cloud on the coast and you fly coastal for the view....

Fantastic trip from Wollongong through Victor one, up through Coffs and to the Gold Coast. In my opinion when the weather is great it is one of the best trips you can do.
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