Mooney 2POB missing west of Coffs Harbour
I think it is an offence for a VFR aircraft to even file a flight plan that comes within 2 miles of controlled airspace
All that you need to claim on your first contact with air traffic control is "unfamiliar with area" that then transfers the responsibility (as much as a can) for air traffic control to give you assistance in staying legal in an area that you don't frequent.
I like it because it gives you two benefits, firstly they know you are not familiar with the area so may not know what you are doing all the details of local landmarks and reporting points and secondly it gives you the confidence that even if you get it wrong they will be there to provide assistance and keep you legal.
I learnt very early on that there assistance can be invaluable when there is bad weather and you are not familiar with areas you are flying into. But learning about these areas and the procedures as well as knowing your limits is all part of the adventure that we call aviation
I like it because it gives you two benefits, firstly they know you are not familiar with the area so may not know what you are doing all the details of local landmarks and reporting points and secondly it gives you the confidence that even if you get it wrong they will be there to provide assistance and keep you legal.
I learnt very early on that there assistance can be invaluable when there is bad weather and you are not familiar with areas you are flying into. But learning about these areas and the procedures as well as knowing your limits is all part of the adventure that we call aviation
Yes Sleddee, some forward-thinker thought that it might just be a good idea for ATC to know where the VFR was as he/she/they wended their way through terminal airspace unannounced/uncontrolled, so allowing ATC to vector A380s around them. You can't take your horse and cart on the freeway...
As I said previously, you know, as well as I do, what really happened.
Are you perhaps now suffering the effluxion of time and developing terminal misapprehension, a very debilitating affliction???
Tootle pip!!
PS: Plenty of A380s flying in both E and G, and all the rest
All that you need to claim on your first contact with air traffic control is "unfamiliar with area" that then transfers the responsibility (as much as a can) for air traffic control to give you assistance in staying legal in an area that you don't frequent.
I like it because it gives you two benefits, firstly they know you are not familiar with the area so may not know what you are doing all the details of local landmarks and reporting points and secondly it gives you the confidence that even if you get it wrong they will be there to provide assistance and keep you legal.
I learnt very early on that there assistance can be invaluable when there is bad weather and you are not familiar with areas you are flying into. But learning about these areas and the procedures as well as knowing your limits is all part of the adventure that we call aviation
I like it because it gives you two benefits, firstly they know you are not familiar with the area so may not know what you are doing all the details of local landmarks and reporting points and secondly it gives you the confidence that even if you get it wrong they will be there to provide assistance and keep you legal.
I learnt very early on that there assistance can be invaluable when there is bad weather and you are not familiar with areas you are flying into. But learning about these areas and the procedures as well as knowing your limits is all part of the adventure that we call aviation
RIP fellow aviators...
Was the aircraft located?
Originally Posted by Leddie
PS: Plenty of A380s flying in both E and G, and all the rest
A380s in G. Where?
I must admit there is quite a bit of efflux around here.
I was going to let it rest, but since you're back, transponders in E/ICAO bla bla bla is almost as bad as radar required in C... it must be so, the minister directed it!!
Transponders in E = eminently sensible
Radar for C = not necessary/political stunt.
Give it a rest please Sunfish. You don’t appear to be happy unless you’re criticising CASA, SAAA, RA-Aus or someone else!
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lol. So true.
Because there are plenty of us on here that actually enjoy aviation, do our best to promote it, base our livelihoods on it and work hard with the regulators and other bodies to promote it.
Then there are the negative nelly’s who seemingly can’t stop denigrating it and complaining all the time, but yet won’t put up their hands to help. It’s like someone that would write a bad google reviews about a hotel because the lift was too slow.
Because there are plenty of us on here that actually enjoy aviation, do our best to promote it, base our livelihoods on it and work hard with the regulators and other bodies to promote it.
Then there are the negative nelly’s who seemingly can’t stop denigrating it and complaining all the time, but yet won’t put up their hands to help. It’s like someone that would write a bad google reviews about a hotel because the lift was too slow.
lol. So true.
Because there are plenty of us on here that actually enjoy aviation, do our best to promote it, base our livelihoods on it and work hard with the regulators and other bodies to promote it.
Then there are the negative nelly’s who seemingly can’t stop denigrating it and complaining all the time, but yet won’t put up their hands to help. It’s like someone that would write a bad google reviews about a hotel because the lift was too slow.
lol. So true.
Because there are plenty of us on here that actually enjoy aviation, do our best to promote it, base our livelihoods on it and work hard with the regulators and other bodies to promote it.
Then there are the negative nelly’s who seemingly can’t stop denigrating it and complaining all the time, but yet won’t put up their hands to help. It’s like someone that would write a bad google reviews about a hotel because the lift was too slow.
I can picture the bend over exercise now!
Note 2: For aircraft operating in close proximity to an airspace boundary where there is a risk of an airspace infringement, the pilot in command should consider obtaining a clearance to enter the airspace or altering track to remain well clear.
There's absolutely nothing about not planning through CTA in AIP. Just don't enter it without a clearance.
And what lessons can we all learn on the last two pages about a fatal accident that took two lives, a father and son who lived in my street.
You have degraded what was a very valuable reminder that was given to us again at the cost of the lives of two people which will hopefully reinforce to many of our VFR cousins not to take undue risks.
You have degraded what was a very valuable reminder that was given to us again at the cost of the lives of two people which will hopefully reinforce to many of our VFR cousins not to take undue risks.