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Old 18th Aug 2019, 06:20
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CASA command instrument rating renewal

Greetings,
Is it possible to renew a CASA command instrument rating in NZ? And if so who might be qualified to conduct this renewal test ? Can it be done in say a 737 simulator (easier) or must it be done in a light twin? Thanks in advance for the info, Pete.
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Old 18th Aug 2019, 07:03
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Part61 you donít need to renew it anymore.

You just need to remain current and pass your flight reviews, or participate in an approved cyclic program.

I believe (and correct me if Iím wrong) you could technically do a quick design feature addition to your licence which would cover the flight review aspect and then provided youíre keeping current with your approaches/IF time , your instrument rating would be valid.

Might be a good time to add something like a tailwheel endo to your licence. Cheaper than hiring a sim/buddy/testing officer etc.
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Old 18th Aug 2019, 07:07
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You mean I've been wasting the $1200 odd I've been spending on my IPC's?
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Old 18th Aug 2019, 07:23
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Originally Posted by The name is Porter View Post
You mean I've been wasting the $1200 odd I've been spending on my IPC's?
As I said, correct me if Iím wrong. Itís been a long time since Iíve been out of a cyclic system, so Iím not to sure of the requirements anymore.
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Old 18th Aug 2019, 10:15
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As I said, correct me if I’m wrong.
Sorry mate you're *kinda* wrong and half right.

Operational ratings need a proficiency check. Instrument, Instructor, Flight Examiner Ratings for example. This is basically the same as the "renewal" you used to do.

Private IFR needs a flight review which includes the relevant competencies... so it's basically a renewal too!
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Old 18th Aug 2019, 17:12
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Pardon my ignorance but I'm looking to do my ATPL flight test next year.
Once it's done I'll have a Part 61 instrument rating, How long is the instrument rating valid given I won't be flying on my Australian ATPL (I'll be using it to get a job outside of Australia)
The Part 61 regs suggest 24 months between checks. Have I read the regs correctly?
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Old 18th Aug 2019, 22:06
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Originally Posted by piratepete View Post
Greetings,
Is it possible to renew a CASA command instrument rating in NZ? And if so who might be qualified to conduct this renewal test ? Can it be done in say a 737 simulator (easier) or must it be done in a light twin? Thanks in advance for the info, Pete.
Whats a Command IR? Surely if you pass the test you can fly IFR in whatever position you hold in the flight deck. Do you have a co-pilot only IR as well??
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Old 19th Aug 2019, 01:46
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Command

I have often asked myself the same question.But that is what CASA have called it for years for some reason..
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Old 19th Aug 2019, 02:59
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If you are in an airline running a cyclic program the instrument rating does not expire for as long as you are in that program with that airline.
As soon as you leave the cyclic program you need to do an IPC to continue to use the rating.
Otherwise an IPC is valid for 12 months from last test - to the end of the calendar month.
The two year thing in the rules causes some confusion, but the way it works is if you fly two types, you can alternate the IPC test annually between types, but fly both types IFR for two years. i.e. you are still required to do an IPC annually.
Oh for the FAA system where the IR never expires as long as you retain approach and instrument flight time recency....though you still need a biennial flight review for private operations and within the airline system are obviously subject to regular proficiency checks.
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Old 19th Aug 2019, 10:43
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Originally Posted by cessnapete View Post


Whats a Command IR? Surely if you pass the test you can fly IFR in whatever position you hold in the flight deck. Do you have a co-pilot only IR as well??
We used to. The name has been changed to reflect the fact that we don't any more.


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Old 21st Aug 2019, 02:31
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Originally Posted by Who stole my meds View Post
Pardon my ignorance but I'm looking to do my ATPL flight test next year.
Once it's done I'll have a Part 61 instrument rating, How long is the instrument rating valid given I won't be flying on my Australian ATPL (I'll be using it to get a job outside of Australia)
The Part 61 regs suggest 24 months between checks. Have I read the regs correctly?
Once you've done your CASA Instrument Rating, you'll be good to go for 12 months. Every 12 months you're required to do an Instrument Proficiency Check.
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Old 21st Aug 2019, 02:35
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Once you've done your CASA Instrument Rating, you'll be good to go for 12 months. Every 12 months you're required to do an Instrument Proficiency Check.
Cool thanks for that.
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