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Old 17th Aug 2019, 13:49
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But Sunny, it's been the same for 25 years, it must exist.
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Old 17th Aug 2019, 14:03
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Hi, advice please, am spending hours going through the FI Handbook, absorbing nothing as it is so confusing and boring. Have thought i’d try and actually absorb the text before looking for practice exams but i’m not getting there!
any advice? Best source for practice exams? I’m guessing as the exam is multiple choice there is no point getting bogged down into a deep learning? HELP PLEASE! Thanks.
How about giving instructing a miss. With your attitude you've got no right to take money or time of those wanting to learn to fly properly.
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Old 17th Aug 2019, 14:08
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Point 1. The PIRC exam in it's current format has been around for decades has it? Don't think so, oldmate Ascend Charlie pointed that out.
1976 is a little more than the 25 years ago that I specified. Regardless, in its current form it is as near as makes no difference the same as the PMI exam, certainly the one that I did back in 2007. The central point is, this is not a new exam. Not even remotely.

Point 2. I did NOT say there was no guidance material, someone else said that.
Someone broke into your house and took over your computer did they?

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"But when you pluck **** out of your arse and steal IP (FAA material) even if it is with their approval, f@rk off. No guidance material, present instructors who haven't done PIRC teaching it to those who need to pass it for the rating? Half arsed bull****."

Want to give that one another go mate?

Point 3. You are wrong.
Again, show me a Grade 1 who hasn't passed the PMI exam. Or show me how the PMI exam of the last 15 years is in any material way different to the PIRC exam.

Well, gees, going out and doing it? Not before you've passed PIRC of course.


0 for 3.


And Doing it? And what is 'it' exactly, other than delivering a syllabus using the principles and methods of instruction! Kinda helps if you know them, which is why everywhere else in the world you're required to do the exam. You had to do it here too, but not until G1 for some reason. Now its aligned, and for the better.
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Old 17th Aug 2019, 22:24
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Give me a bit of time, I'll get back to you on the 3 for 3.
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Old 18th Aug 2019, 07:10
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point of order; there is no evidence that Maslows hierarchy exists.
An interesting question in the exam relating to this one was something along the lines of "after reaching which level of Maslows hierarchy, will a student be most receptive to flight instruction?". I recall getting this one wrong and I would argue that a student would be increasingly receptive as he 'climbs the hierarchy' but of course there was one specific level that the exam wanted to hear and I don't think that level is specified in the FAA book. I did pass the exam on my first go but there were a number of stupid questions like the above.
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An interesting question in the exam relating to this one was something along the lines of "after reaching which level of Maslows hierarchy, will a student be most receptive to flight instruction?". I recall getting this one wrong and I would argue that a student would be increasingly receptive as he 'climbs the hierarchy' but of course there was one specific level that the exam wanted to hear and I don't think that level is specified in the FAA book. I did pass the exam on my first go but there were a number of stupid questions like the above.
That's just typical CASA exam mentality. They write the questions to trick you; not to test your knowledge.
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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 05:15
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Well i’m back having left the thread due to obvious reasons and good news! I studied hard, absorbed the text and got 98%.
so the biggest learning is that the likes of Ascend Charlie, George Glass, Das Uber Soldat, and Déjà Vu are the worst possible personality types, according to the Handbook, for not just aviation but even more so as Instructors. Again-according to the clear guidelines of the Instructor’s Handbook. So to the rest of the posters who were pleasant and approachable in their responses, thank you. To the above mentioned hypocrites who need to read the Handbook - might be wise to get out of Instructing!
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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 05:51
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Decky, I suggest your manner of 'teaching a lesson' to those named, is less than ideal. I wouldn't like to be your student.
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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 05:59
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Well i’m back having left the thread due to obvious reasons and good news! I studied hard, absorbed the text and got 98%.
so the biggest learning is that the likes of Ascend Charlie, George Glass, Das Uber Soldat, and Déjà Vu are the worst possible personality types, according to the Handbook, for not just aviation but even more so as Instructors. Again-according to the clear guidelines of the Instructor’s Handbook. So to the rest of the posters who were pleasant and approachable in their responses, thank you. To the above mentioned hypocrites who need to read the Handbook - might be wise to get out of Instructing!
So we go from "confusing and boring" six days ago to "I studied hard" and got 98%". And now there are "clear guidelines" in the Instructor's Handbook", the previously confusing and boring Instructors Handbook. I doubt there wasn't too much "deep learning" involved for you. Now those who advised you to pull your finger out and do a bit of work have personality problems?, go figure that!

As far as giving up instructing goes, I did that 46 years ago. I met my fair share of slackers and complete twerps then and during the 35 year airline career that followed, so I recognise it. My sympathy goes to anyone who thinks they are going to get value for money with their flying lesson. I guess this all started when parents stopped disciplining their children
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Well i’m back having left the thread due to obvious reasons and good news! I studied hard, absorbed the text and got 98%.
so the biggest learning is that the likes of Ascend Charlie, George Glass, Das Uber Soldat, and Déjà Vu are the worst possible personality types, according to the Handbook, for not just aviation but even more so as Instructors. Again-according to the clear guidelines of the Instructor’s Handbook. So to the rest of the posters who were pleasant and approachable in their responses, thank you. To the above mentioned hypocrites who need to read the Handbook - might be wise to get out of Instructing!
Congrats, well done.

This forum appears populated by a lot of people who know everything, or recently spoke to someone who was ‘high up’ in an airline/government agency etc who just happened to share the poster’s sentiments on any issue. And you bore the brunt.

Again, congrats on an awesome mark!

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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 06:56
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Hahahaha, deja vu, you don't post very often but when you do....absolute gold..!

deckchair - good luck with your instructing (sincerely). Perhaps a more magnanimous attitude would be advisable. You can learn a lot from some of the seasoned professionals on this site. Even if the delivery of their advice can at times be a bit more abrasive than what the younger generation seems to be able to tolerate these days, it is worth taking on board. Instructing can be a tough gig at times (as can other flying jobs). Develop a thicker skin, roll with the punches, you'll be fine.
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I studied hard, absorbed the text and got 98%.
Deckchair, that is exactly what we told you to do. You did what the Old heads said was the thing to do, and you got the desired result.

So, who is the bad instructor??

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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 11:34
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Gee, thanks for the advise Deckchair. I’ll really try hard to live up to your expectations. But then again, after 20,000 hours on Boeings, maybe not. If you think your new age attitude is going to get you very far in the real world, good luck. But I think you’re in for a surprise.
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20,000 hours on Boeings is guaranteed to make someone a good flight instructor, especially ab-initio!
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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 11:43
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Well, BigPapi, maybe its just me, but any student who turns up to ab-initio training expressing an aversion to “deep learning” is going to need attitude adjustment at some stage and is going to be spotted very early on in any pilot selection process for any job worth having. No airline is going to spend much time on a candidate that turns up underprepared. The world hasn’t changed that much since I was an instructor.

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Well i’m back having left the thread due to obvious reasons and good news! I studied hard, absorbed the text and got 98%.
so the biggest learning is that the likes of Ascend Charlie, George Glass, Das Uber Soldat, and Déjà Vu are the worst possible personality types, according to the Handbook, for not just aviation but even more so as Instructors. Again-according to the clear guidelines of the Instructor’s Handbook. So to the rest of the posters who were pleasant and approachable in their responses, thank you. To the above mentioned hypocrites who need to read the Handbook - might be wise to get out of Instructing!
Deckchair, good comeback, I like your work :-)

Better add Runaway Gun to your **** list!

You'll come across these types repeatedly in your aviation career, they forget their time in GA once they migrate to the shiny jet.

Good luck.
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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 13:17
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Das, I'm still working on the 3 for 3, bear with me.
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Old 25th Aug 2019, 13:05
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I'm losing interest Collins, Biggins & Paisley, pick up the pace.

As for Deckchair, this has to be a windup. No way a real person has an attitude anything like this kid.

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Edited. For obvious reasons.

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