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CASA Flight Instructor’s Exam

Old 4th Sep 2019, 11:45
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Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie View Post
This thread has lost all meaning, with Porter and Soldat jerking off on each other's posts.

Give it up, girls.
This thread ever had any meaning? Its little better than a jetblast thread, and I'm treating it as such. Its not every day you meet someone as entertaining as Ranga, why spoil the fun?

So, back to it.

"Point 1. So do you acknowledge that the PIRC exam is not a 'new' exam, and that it has existed roughly unchanged in 15 years or more?"
Porter : No.

Strange, given previously you have said

Originally Posted by porter
The FAA handbook is handy, it has some great material in it, however, some of the material is dated. Your point that the exam hasn't changed in 15 years in itself is a problem.
Why the flip flop?

Do you just flip a coin or something with each reply?

"Point 2. Are you now changing your position that there is no guidance material for the PIRC?"
Porter : "No"

You're not changing your position. Fascinating.

Point 2 " Is there guidance material or not?"
Porter "No"

And yet..

Originally Posted by Porter
I did NOT say there was no guidance material
Heh, this just keeps getting better and better.

Regardless, there is a mountain of guidance material for the PIRC. As posted earlier
Originally Posted by Casa
Suggested study material
The following references are useful study material for the PIRC.
  • Aviation Instructor's Handbook (FAA-H-8083-9A)
    This is the principal reference text
  • A suitable management book on 'motivation'
    A candidate is expected to have basic understanding of the theories of motivation proposed by:While FAA-H-8083-9A provides some short paragraphs on the first two (but mainly on Maslow), most management books provide satisfactory information on the 3 theories
    • Abraham Maslow's 'Hierarchy of Needs'
    • Douglas McGregor 'X & Y' Theory
    • Frederick Herzberg '2-Factor' Theory.
    • Human Factors in Flight by Frank Hawkins or any human factors book on 'memory', 'motivation', 'stress', etc
      Optional - to supplement information in the above
    • Preparing Instructional Objectives by Robert F Mager
      Optional - a useful text on 'behavioural objectives' to compliment FAA-H-8083-9A
    • Measuring Instructional Results by Robert F Mager
      Optional - additional useful text on 'behavioural objectives'
If you can't pass the exam with that enormous collection of reference texts then you maybe food delivery is better suited to your skill set.


Originally Posted by Porter
Please stop with the big words
How far into the Sesame Street forum signup did you get before you ran into a 3 syllable word and gave up? Be honest, we're all friends here.




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Old 5th Sep 2019, 02:53
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Should you want to have the last word, again.........

Point 1. NO

Point 2. NO & NO

Keep going Captain SFB, love your work.

This thread has lost all meaning, with Porter and Soldat jerking off on each other's posts.
PS, One of these identities is a pedant, juvenile. The other is Porter.

If you can't pass the exam with that enormous collection of reference texts then you maybe food delivery is better suited to your skill set.
Please, if you're going to lecture on a public forum, perhaps you can attempt correct grammar? Although, I guess not much is expected from an airbus pilot?

Sorry, where is the Sesame Street sign-up? I tend not to source all my info from google, especially my three syllable words.
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Old 5th Sep 2019, 05:34
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Wow.....upwards of sixty posts arguing over a multple choice quiz that can easily be studied for and knocked off over a weekend or two. You guys are funny.

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Old 5th Sep 2019, 06:38
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Originally Posted by The name is Porter View Post
Should you want to have the last word, again.........
Er.. Should I? "Please, if you're going to lecture on a public forum, perhaps you can attempt correct grammar? "

heh.

Originally Posted by porter
Although, I guess not much is expected from an airbus pilot?
Rather abstract I guess, but ok? Are Airbus pilots lesser than other pilots? What if that pilot has flown Boeing and other types also? What happens then? Fascinating!

Originally Posted by porter
Sorry, where is the Sesame Street sign-up?
https://muppetcentral.com/forum/forums/sesame-street/

I got you fam.

Originally Posted by Porter
Point 2. NO & NO


Specifically, you are standing by your claim that there is no guidance material for the PIRC, despite it being patently and painfully obvious there is a mountain of it. I've seen obstinate before, but this is a whole new thing. I'm not even mad, its impressive.

Originally Posted by Some other guy
a multi choice exam that can easily be studied for and knocked off over a weekend
Sure is. I used this brand new thing called the guidance material.

For the record I have no idea why this thread wasn't locked ages ago, but until that time I'm more than happy to entertain myself with elmo over here.

One more time for the punters in the back!

Originally Posted by The name is Porter
No guidance material
Originally Posted by The name is Porter
I did NOT say there was no guidance material
10/10, would troll again.
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Old 5th Sep 2019, 07:33
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Carn mate still waiting for my response (respectfully)
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Old 5th Sep 2019, 10:08
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Originally Posted by BigPapi View Post
The CASA PIRC exam, like all exams, is worthless as a tool to impart knowledge. It'll assess you the same whether you've rote learnt or developed understanding or correlation.
Sorry mate I got all caught up in the excitement and forgot.

Are exams designed to be tools to impart knowledge? I thought the reference material did that. The exam is supposed to test your knowledge and insight of said topic. Do the CASA exams do that well? Up for argument I suppose? From my experience doing CASA exams, it has been my opinion that they generally cover the syllabus. Do I agree with that syllabus? Sometimes yes, often times no.

How do exams distinguish between those who have rote learned and those who have true insight? I think that is a very challenging goal to set any exam. I certainly don't have an answer. If you could design an exam to achieve that goal I'd wager there is a fair reward in it for yourself.

Originally Posted by Bigpapi
It's a great motivator however to actually READ the FAA Handbook which is an awesome tool and educational resource for anyone teaching and assessing.
Could you not then argue that at least in part the exam has achieved its goal? If we get young instructors reading the handbook, then maybe a few of them learn something about how people learn, how to effectively communicate their meaning (ahem, not mentioning names here..) et al.

Every exam could be better but I never saw a huge issue with the PMI exam. Has some good bits in it, is relatively easy to cover the breadth of the material and provides next to no hurdle for someone looking to attain the grade.
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Old 5th Sep 2019, 13:02
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Point 1. NO
Point 2. NO & NO

P.S. You've only found two user names, you disappoint me.

You talk an awful lot of garbage, you sound like a real bore.
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Old 6th Sep 2019, 01:10
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Oh, and in case you hadn't noticed, I'm not arguing with you anymore. There is no agreement, no common ground. I'm not interested in an argument based on pedantry. So for the benefit of us all and the display of your pure genius, keep goin' (said in Carl Barron accent), go on, keep goin'
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Old 6th Sep 2019, 01:19
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Originally Posted by The name is Porter View Post
P.S. You've only found two user names, you disappoint me.
Oh I found a little more than that kiddo

Happy weekend flying.
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Old 6th Sep 2019, 01:22
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Originally Posted by The name is Porter View Post
Oh, and in case you hadn't noticed, I'm not arguing with you anymore. There is no agreement, no common ground. I'm not interested in an argument based on pedantry. So for the benefit of us all and the display of your pure genius, keep goin' (said in Carl Barron accent), go on, keep goin'
You do realise that if you ever get a real job there isn't going to be time for this garbage.
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Old 6th Sep 2019, 01:37
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Oh I found a little more than that kiddo
Go on 'kiddo' post away and you know where you'll find yourself ;-)

you might even see some of the stuff you've sent me via PM.
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Old 6th Sep 2019, 01:39
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You do realise that if you ever get a real job there isn't going to be time for this garbage.
I thought it was obvious I'm trying to avoid that possibility.
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