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Old 16th May 2019, 00:14
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Coulson Aviation - Fireliners

The NSW State Government has bought a B737-300 Firetanker from Coulson Aviation. Included is a support package of two Cessna Citation V (C560) and operating crew for the next ten years.
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Old 16th May 2019, 02:58
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Various news services have details. NSW Govt media release https://www.nsw.gov.au/news-and-even...ght-bushfires/
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Old 16th May 2019, 04:28
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Fantastic new that an Australian government department decides that no Australian companys are able to do this contract.
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Old 16th May 2019, 07:37
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Fantastic new that an Australian government department decides that no Australian companys are able to do this contract.

Name the Australian company that can do this?
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Old 16th May 2019, 09:21
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Australia carefully sold off and contracted out its aviation maintenance capabilities. There is no one left with:

(a) licence coverage for a b737-300

(b) Spares, especially rotables, let alone a suitably configured CFM 56 or modules plus engine licences.

(c) An exposition/approval/AOC from CASA.

.......and no hope of establishing such a capability at a reasonable cost. So I am assuming the aircraft will remain N registered and the maintenance and operations will be conducted under US regulations. I couldn’t see CASA approving a sensible AOC anyway.

Smart blokes and even me looked at establishing something that might have been able to take on such work at least five years ago, but it was just too hard, so......

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Old 16th May 2019, 10:03
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The opinion amongst US firies seems to be that the big tankers are best for media photo opportunities and not so good for fire-fighting.

I can't see how a turn-around of something around 1 hour, even with a 20-40 tonne load, would be more effective than a Skycrane dropping 5-6 tonne every few minutes, or those scooper amphibious fixed-wings.
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Old 16th May 2019, 22:21
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The large airtankers are deployable over a wide area whereas the helos are localised. Not all fires have easy water access. The answer which NSW and Vic use is a layered approach of air assets.
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Old 17th May 2019, 00:13
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Sunfish, Read the press/media release and guff on the govt. web site. It is a 10 year turn-key support operation. So keep all three aircraft on US register, that would make sense. It is no different to Evergreen with the Skycranes other than the aircraft go home at the end of the season. If NSW Fire has actually BOUGHT the aircraft, then after 10 year support contract ends. Re-Tender....
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Old 17th May 2019, 05:25
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There is no one left with:

(a) licence coverage for a b737-300
I'm sure that Nauru Airlines would disagree. Their -300's are VH and maintained in BNE...
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Old 17th May 2019, 07:39
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Thank you TBM, are the LAMES on zimmer frames?
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Old 17th May 2019, 08:08
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Unsurprisingly, the NSW government announced this good news the week prior to the federal election. In the same week the NSW Premier wrote to her constituents urging us to vote Liberal on Saturday..
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