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Old 2nd Mar 2019, 07:31
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Cool

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Engineering are going to be busy. 2 B52’s gone tech, C17 ate a bird for lunch and grounded, aerobatic pyrotechnic aircraft set its own self on fire last night. Jetstar also had a bird strike in addition to the other 320 they have gone tech down there already! Oh and who took out some of the runway lights.

finally some excitement
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Old 2nd Mar 2019, 07:46
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Back down to 20 degrees on Wednesday should be better for the yankee engineers.

I feel sorry for the US aircrews selling their merchandise in the opressive heat all day.
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Originally Posted by Squawk7700
I feel sorry for the US aircrews selling their merchandise in the opressive heat all day.
Why? It gets hot in America too!
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom

Why? It gets hot in America too!
Not when you arrived here from the middle of winter !
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But it it was hot! Maybe this global warming is happening!
Don't know about that.
Last time I went it was in the 40s in the morning, blew a gale from the SW and then we froze.
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I went on Friday / Saturday as planned
Somehow I survived the heat.
Once again the volunteers did a great job, also the city train service was smooth.
No HARS aircraft that I could see?
I missed Connie as she was a hilite for the night show in past years.
No new Bell 505 ?
Most Expo stands were un manned and empty on Saturday.
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No new Bell 505 ?
I'd be happy with the 429 :-)





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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 02:46
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So is there a site that's showing Avalon live, without having to put in your credit card details to an overseas site.
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 03:44
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Not likely. There’s quite a few videos getting traction on YouTube which makes me think those that stayed home due to the weather have been watching them online instead.

Stefan Drury has put up some good ones all week.


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Originally Posted by 601
Don't know about that.
Last time I went it was in the 40s in the morning, blew a gale from the SW and then we froze.
601,
Was that the year the "cool change" was preceded by a dust storm ---- then just enough rain to turn the dust on the aeroplanes to mud.
I had to find few storms with rain, on the way home, to get most of it off.
And, of course, the famous Avalon crosswinds.
Tootle pip!!
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 06:05
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Stefan Drury has put up some good ones all week.
Yes he has, but could someone please dissuade him from flying Air Asia (which he hinted at in one of his videos).
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Off topic but for any ex ADF guys, today was the last PC-9 Roulette demo before the change over to the 21.

Bankstown in 2000 watching the Roulettes is why I joined. Holding a category on it was something else again. I can't be alone in feeling a bit nostalgic at that.
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 06:56
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If you’re that attached to the PC9 they are running at between $66k-$90k on Grays online :-)

https://www.graysonline.com/sale/503...pters?spr=true

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Originally Posted by Squawk7700
If you’re that attached to the PC9 they are running at between $66k-$90k on Grays online :-)

https://www.graysonline.com/sale/503...pters?spr=true

Only a fool would pay that much for those. I wonder if the buyers have done any actual research. Regardless, fond memories.
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 08:14
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Originally Posted by junior.VH-LFA
Only a fool would pay that much for those. I wonder if the buyers have done any actual research. Regardless, fond memories.
Those engines have got to be worth a fair bit though surely? Even if not for aviation purposes.

Did people say that about the Mustangs and Spitfires all those years ago???
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Those engines have got to be worth a fair bit though surely? Even if not for aviation purposes.

Did people say that about the Mustangs and Spitfires all those years ago???
They don't come with any logbooks, so I doubt it. I'm not an engineer though so I won't pretend to know if you can use one in an airworthy sense without it. They also don't come with any seats or avionics. The looms are there though, so I suppose that's a start, right?
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 09:10
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No log books and not necessarily a known system of maintenance means gate guardian. From memory there was not much corrosion protection added in the wing manufacturing (at least by Boeing standard) at the ‘bend. So it’s anyone’s guess what the shiny paint hides.
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 09:42
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Are these 9's ending there flying career at the end of Avalon?
if so I guess the drivers go home on a bus
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This is the first batch to go under the hammer. Feels like a bit of a publicity stunt having the auction end after Avalon, also considering that Grays had a stand there.

The Grays guy mentioned to me that the Kiowa’s were flown in but the Pc9’s weren’t. I can only assume that is correct. You’d have to assume that the Pc9’s aren’t end of life unless they have already had some sitting around for a while that are somehow out of hours. The fact that a few of them are sitting on the same figure suggests that someone out there bidding knows their true worth.

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Unless you have the maintenance records (the books) you have no idea of the time/cycle/stress history of the major components of the aircraft that includes most of the engine e.g turbine disks, spars, landing gear etc. That in my experience means they are scrap metal. I know of no loophole that gets you out of that situation...... and i’m not blaming CASA either.

You would need to have a whole container load of brand new spares complete with release notes and the current maintenance manuals to maybe make it possible to legally get one into flying condition, but maybe that is the plan.
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