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Any other ways to receive ATC training in Aus?

Old 22nd Feb 2019, 15:53
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Question Any other ways to receive ATC training in Aus?

So I didn't get past the initial online testing of the Airservices recruitment for air traffic controller training program.
Spent a hefty amount of time researching online whether there will be other places that offer such training only to be told by various people only ADFA/RAAF and Airservices are the only 2 places that offer.
I really want to become an ATC and I'm kind of desperate to continue on materialising this path, wonder where else I can get trained on atc things otherwise I was thinking of completing an aviation degree at uni if I can't find anything else to help my current situation.
I'm not restricted to Australia, am open to NZ or HK options
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Old 22nd Feb 2019, 23:23
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 00:16
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Airways NZ does training - don't know about NZ military. HK trains locals and expats with ATC experience, though they are reducing the number of expats as more locals qualify.
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 00:18
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Originally Posted by bmtsurin View Post
So I didn't get past the initial online testing of the Airservices recruitment for air traffic controller training program.
The initial testing process is there for a reason i.e. to select those who demonstrate the skills and aptitude to get through the course and rating training, and filter out those that don't. I think they may permit a second attempt at some point.

However the pass rate for the ATC course is not high, so someone marginal at the selection stage is unlikely to progress, and even if the course is passed, rating training is a different ball game when the aircraft and scenarios are real. Not all achieve a rating.
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 05:37
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Hello,

Would you happen to know any places in HK that does training, if you do please let me know

thank you
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 06:46
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You could give this a go:
https://www.seek.com.au/job/38414876...&type=standout
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 14:33
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Training can't be provided in Australia. Even YMML can't get proper controlling anyways.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 21:20
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Originally Posted by Al Barsha South View Post
Training can't be provided in Australia. Even YMML can't get proper controlling anyways.
I donít think this is fair on our colleagues in ATC.

They consider much more than the single aircraft we sit in. If I had to consider the highly variable foreign operators (and just how far out theyíll slow to min speed, or how far below MSA theyíll fly) and create a plan to space these aircraft... itíd be a hell of a day to quit sniffing glue.

The major 4 domestic airlines (narrow body) are probably the most flexible resource THEY have to smooth the flow out, and this will probably happen within the last 30nm.

I believe we should consider it our part to assist as best we can, as the gap we fill, or stretch out, is probably what evens out the approach and departure rate.

I cannot do their job, and appreciate how they help me do mine.

Cheers ATC.

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Old 26th Feb 2019, 22:46
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I cannot do their job, and appreciate how they help me do mine.
What a great post signature

Sometimes things can be frustrating but remember ATC are limited by internal policies they may not agree with - much like when we guarantee best speed to the field and all of a sudden a company limit has us languishing at 250kts miles and miles out.
I'm sure I'm on the receiving end of thier misjudgments as often as they are of mine, but I'll give it to ATC in that I find they maintain thier professionalism beyond many pilots I know.

As for the OPs question, if you are not limited by Australia then definatly try overseas. From what I understand the selection process is largely the same but if you lucky the results may vary.
The few ATCers I do know critisise the recruitment for selecting an 'ideal canditate' with zero knowledge or interest in flying and some things just cant be 'taught', unfortunately that is the system you have to face nowadays.
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Old 27th Feb 2019, 07:27
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If you were only told you didnít pass the initial selection recently, donít make any hasty decisions for at least a couple of weeks

they have been asked to fill more courses and train more people than initially thought so some candidates who were on the borderline of the online tests have been initially rejected only to be subsequently invited to a selection day
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