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RAAF No.34 Squadron

Old 13th Feb 2019, 22:06
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RAAF No.34 Squadron

G'day to those of you who are interested in the RAAF,
I have been looking into the No.34th, Squadron of the RAAF, and I have an interest in that field of work.
I don't know much about the RAAF, whether it is direct entry etc.
Would there be a direct entry option into the RAAF flying for the 34th squadron, or for Aerial Surveillance ops?
Thanks
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 01:24
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Short answer, No.

Long answer, to fly as a pilot in the RAAF you have to either join the RAAF and complete pilots course (no RPL). Or have flown in another military and pass a wings evaluation at CFS.

So head in on over to the ADF Jobs website and sign on up. It’s only 12 years of your life.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 01:52
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Yeah,
Thanks.
12yrs, and when you apply you don't know whether it will be hornets or the surveillance stuff right?
Just a preference?
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 02:33
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Originally Posted by Theaviator10101 View Post
G'day to those of you who are interested in the RAAF,
I have been looking into the No.34th, Squadron of the RAAF, and I have an interest in that field of work.
I don't know much about the RAAF, whether it is direct entry etc.
Would there be a direct entry option into the RAAF flying for the 34th squadron, or for Aerial Surveillance ops?
Thanks
No, and frankly the RAAF isn’t likely to be interested in anyone who wasn’t interested in at least trying to fly fast jets anyway.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 02:37
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Never said I wasn't interested Junior!
Just said I would rather flying the king airs, or challengers.
Everyone has a preference!
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 03:30
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Perhaps write to: P.O. Box XYZ in your capital city?
(It worked in my day.)
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 11:41
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I would have thought that someone who doesn't "know much about the RAAF" and wants to join the "No.34th, Squadron of the RAAF" and hasn't it seems asked that organization for the answers, would struggle to get past the front door.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 17:41
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IN the Bad Old Days, it was almost a punishment posting to go to 34, and was saved for the people off the bottom of the course who would need a lot of supervision before coming good. But the toys then were HS748 and a couple of BAC-111.

These days with some lovely things to play with, it is a stepping stone to the airways.
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 04:39
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Originally Posted by Theaviator10101 View Post
Yeah,
Thanks.
12yrs, and when you apply you don't know whether it will be hornets or the surveillance stuff right?
Just a preference?
When you apply now you don't know whether you will be selected as a pilot, ATC or ACO now. You join as Officer Aviation and get streamed directly according to your abilities.

I say the same thing to everyone who has preferences on flying this or that; pass the course first, then you get to submit preferences. At the end of the day, what you want is likely to be among the last thing they look at anyway when posting you, service needs will generally always win the day.

Anecdotally, posting to 34SQN after pilots course is the only posting that you will not get a command on during your first tour.
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 06:05
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In my time at 34, late mid to late 90s, all 1st tour copilots got a non VIP command. Could do non vip tasking, and also training, as Captain
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 06:39
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IN the Bad Old Days, it was almost a punishment posting to go to 34, and was saved for the people off the bottom of the course who would need a lot of supervision before coming good. But the toys then were HS748 and a couple of BAC-111.
I was at 34 Squadron in the 1960's for seven wonderful years of first class flying. None of the copilots I flew with needed extra supervision. In all that time I never knew of the "punishment" posting reputation of that squadron. Fake news comes to mind? The "toys" in the "bad old days" were Dakotas, Viscounts, Convair 440 Metropolitans, HS 748's BAC-111, Mystere 20 and even a dual Vampire for RAAF HQ senior air staff offices to keep their hand in. Some toys!

For newly graduated pilots in those days it was a dream posting. After two years left and right seat logging copilot time - some might be posted to a flying instructors course at Central Flying School East Sale. Then two years as QFI at AFTS/BFTS or whatever it was called then, then more often and not get posted back to 34 Sqn as captain.
The only units I knew in those days that had a word of mouth reputation (undeserved in my opinion) was School of Air Navigation and Air Armaments School, both based at RAAF East Sale. There you flew Dakotas. Lincolns, Mustangs and Vampires. Not a bad posting for new pilots with 210 hours on Tiger Moths and Wirraways. Beats a command on Drones in todays RAAF hands down
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 07:19
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Wow,
thanks for all these helpful replies!
I'm not fussed about getting a command, if I were posted to the 34th squadron after pilot training I'd be over the moon.
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 07:21
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Wow,
thanks for all these helpful replies!
I'm not fussed about getting a command, if I were posted to the 34th squadron after pilot training I'd be over the moon.
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 07:46
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There you flew Dakotas. Lincolns, Mustangs and Vampires. Not a bad posting for new pilots with 210 hours on Tiger Moths and Wirraways.
(Massive sigh) Flying Mustangs with only 210 hours total time!

Then again, back in 44/45, Nineteen year olds were flying fully laden (mainly with Bombs and a little 303 ammo) Lancasters to Berlin (and back if they were lucky) at night in sometimes IMC conditions (with severe airframe icing) with only 5-600hrs TT. And they were getting shot at as well!!
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 08:23
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Before I was posted to 34SQN in ‘89 I spent some time on leave in Canberra (learning how to fly...).

I recall that in the old, old Civvie terminal (that is, the terminal before the one before the current one) there was a black and white photo of the RAAF flightline. The picture appeared to have been taken from the East-ish, from somewhere down near the guard gate, but on top of something (e.g. a building etc).

There was a Lancaster and a number of Mustangs on the RAAF flightline.

The picture survived to the ‘old’ Civvie terminal - that is, the one before the current one. However, I’ve never been able to find it in the new (current) terminal.

I always wondered when the photo was taken. I always hoped that the Lancaster is the one now in the War Memorial and that the Mustangs all went to good homes.
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Old 16th Feb 2019, 01:01
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Originally Posted by Theaviator10101 View Post
Yeah,
Thanks.
12yrs, and when you apply you don't know whether it will be hornets or the surveillance stuff right?
Just a preference?
Nor do you know if you will actually be in a war or in operations other than war. Other Services may get you closer to any action, but not as a pilot.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 00:40
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Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie View Post
IN the Bad Old Days, it was almost a punishment posting to go to 34, and was saved for the people off the bottom of the course who would need a lot of supervision before coming good.
They’ve only got the lives of Australia’s politicians in their hands, so I guess that doesn’t matter! 😉
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 08:13
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They’ve only got the lives of Australia’s politicians in their hands
Yes, well we all have our crosses to bear, do we not?
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