Wikiposts
Search
The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions The place for students, instructors and charter guys in Oz, NZ and the rest of Oceania.

Moruya Airport Closure

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 21st Dec 2018, 05:09
  #1 (permalink)  
Ng5
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Malua Bay
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Moruya Airport Closure

Email was received from Airport Manager a few days ago notifying us of closure of the Moruya Airport to all fixed wing operations for up to 3 weeks from the end of February 2019. This is to allow works to be carried out on the main North South runway although we were not told why the closure needs to apply to the cross runway 04/22. This came without any consultation with the users which include Rex, SkydiveOz , a flying school , a maintenance organisation as well as a large number of hangar owners and private operators. It will be really nice if we get a bushfire similar to the one that devastated Tathra in March if fixed wing waterbombing cannot be used. Just unbelievable !
Ng5 is offline  
Old 21st Dec 2018, 05:39
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hey it's a council owned/operated, so no surprises here! Gotta feel for the commercial business there they must love their council!
machtuk is offline  
Old 21st Dec 2018, 06:12
  #3 (permalink)  
Ng5
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Malua Bay
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The skydiving guy says he will lose $115000 as a minimum plus his 17 employees. I should also mention that this is peak season for scenic flights and training. Of course no compensation has been offered by Eurobodalla Council and no doubt we will be expected to continue to pay rent and access fees for the period in question.
Ng5 is offline  
Old 21st Dec 2018, 06:30
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3,877
Received 193 Likes on 100 Posts
Better to close for 3 weeks rather than forever !
Squawk7700 is online now  
Old 21st Dec 2018, 07:01
  #5 (permalink)  
Ng5
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Malua Bay
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well I would go along with that if they could explain why they need to close the cross runway which they are not working on. Except for Rex , the GA people could manage if they kept 04/22 open . The intention is to resurface the main runway to spend the grant Malcolm Turnbull gave them before the last election. I’m not sure how Rex are taking it but I imagine not well seeing as they have been working hard to improve their service over the last year or so. Apparently there is only a $5 profit on each ticket sold , so not easy for them. I recall Canberra Airport extended and resufaced 17/35 some years ago with minimal disruption to the users. We are advised the reason for the timing in peak season is that it’s better weather for resealing?
Ng5 is offline  
Old 21st Dec 2018, 09:52
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: FNQ ... It's Permanent!
Posts: 4,290
Received 169 Likes on 86 Posts
Why can’t they just close the airport each night, like everyone else goes when they need to do runway works?
Capt Fathom is online now  
Old 21st Dec 2018, 09:55
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3,877
Received 193 Likes on 100 Posts
If it's being done properly, there's no way you could do it overnight and re-open it in the morning.
Squawk7700 is online now  
Old 21st Dec 2018, 10:02
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: FNQ ... It's Permanent!
Posts: 4,290
Received 169 Likes on 86 Posts
You need to get out more!
Capt Fathom is online now  
Old 21st Dec 2018, 13:18
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
Posts: 2,469
Received 310 Likes on 116 Posts
Originally Posted by Squawk7700
If it's being done properly, there's no way you could do it overnight and re-open it in the morning.
So when is Sydney or Melbourne or Brisbane going to close their runways?

I’ve seen it done before, the runway is closed overnight and they resurface bits at a time, then it’s ready and open the next morning.
morno is offline  
Old 21st Dec 2018, 15:38
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Cairns FNQ
Age: 71
Posts: 180
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by Squawk7700
If it's being done properly, there's no way you could do it overnight and re-open it in the morning.
Like all councils trying not to spend too many quid, they may have awarded the contract to an El Cheapo Resealing mob with limited ability.
cowl flaps is offline  
Old 21st Dec 2018, 20:34
  #11 (permalink)  
Ng5
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Malua Bay
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
For the past few months they have been doing works towards developing hangar sites on the Southwestern end of the airport. This has included roadworks, laying of water and sewage pipes, as well as relocating power poles. In the usual way this has been very slow and I suspect is now well over budget. We were promised “finished by Christmas “ but alas....Maybe this is the reason for trying to save $ on the runway reseal.
Ng5 is offline  
Old 22nd Dec 2018, 00:39
  #12 (permalink)  
Ng5
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Malua Bay
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If the Council persist with this intransigence do any of you lawyer types think we could get an injunction to delay the works pending proper consultation etc?
Ng5 is offline  
Old 22nd Dec 2018, 06:46
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: WA
Posts: 1,290
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Maybe the shire is acting on engineering advice that the re seal needs to be done ASAP. Anyone have first hand knowledge as to the condition of the runway? Was there cracking, rutting or other faults?
The required level of notice for a closure for planned works is 14 days but where airlines are concerned you would normally give as much notice as possible.
YPJT is offline  
Old 22nd Dec 2018, 07:50
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Sunshine Coast
Posts: 338
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Ask for a copy of the Method of Working Plan. That should explain what, how and why?
Vag277 is offline  
Old 22nd Dec 2018, 08:17
  #15 (permalink)  
Ng5
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Malua Bay
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
We understand that the works are being funded by a grant from the Commonwealth which was handed out by Malcolm Turnbull as part of an unsuccessful attempt to save his candidate Dr Peter Hendy at the 2016 election. Moruya lies in the very marginal seat of Eden Monaro. They were trying to create the illusion that the Airport would be upgraded to take larger aircraft and maybe even jet traffic. That was in 2016 so the council has had a bit of time to prepare for this.
The users have asked for a copy of the Method of Working Plan but it has not been made available to us as yet. Everybody is aware that there are problems with the main runway requiring frequent patching because it sits on top of sand so gets a lot of movement.
Our main beef is their decision to close the whole place down for 3 weeks including the 04/22 cross runway which is not subject to the work except for its intersection with 18/36 . It will be hugely expensive for all the businesses operating from here.
Ng5 is offline  
Old 22nd Dec 2018, 08:36
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Sunshine Coast
Posts: 338
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I suspect the problem is loss of available length and OLS penetration by equipment during works.
Vag277 is offline  
Old 22nd Dec 2018, 09:13
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: QLD - where drivers are yet to realise that the left lane goes to their destination too.
Posts: 3,337
Received 182 Likes on 75 Posts
It will be considerably cheaper to get the works done during daylight. It is also very time consuming to have to return the RWY to operational condition at the end of each night's works, only to have to rip up the temporary fix the following night and continue the program. MEL, SYD & BNE do it at night because they have to. Looking at the AD layout, I do find it puzzling that the cross strip is out of action for the works duration. I would have thought you could get a lot of the main strip done before it would impact on ops on the cross-strip. The MOWP will tell all.
Traffic_Is_Er_Was is offline  
Old 22nd Dec 2018, 09:44
  #18 (permalink)  
Ng5
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Malua Bay
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Interesting that this came out just a few days before Christmas so it’s very difficult to get advice or assistance. By the time everybody gets back to work in January it will almost be time for the closure.
Ng5 is offline  
Old 22nd Dec 2018, 18:38
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Wingham NSW Australia
Age: 83
Posts: 1,343
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Ng5
For the past few months they have been doing works towards developing hangar sites on the Southwestern end of the airport. This has included roadworks, laying of water and sewage pipes, as well as relocating power poles. In the usual way this has been very slow and I suspect is now well over budget. We were promised “finished by Christmas “ but alas....Maybe this is the reason for trying to save $ on the runway reseal.
There is a so called Aviation Business Park at Taree Airport constructed at a cost of over $3 Million. Been open for three years with, as of a few weeks ago, no new construction happening. I guess things are slow in the aviation game these days.
Old Fella is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.